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<blockquote data-quote="eryndel" data-source="post: 1254958" data-attributes="member: 13120"><p>Two of the games I've played in since 3.0 came out had us have at least 1 level in an NPC class. That said, the classes are less powerful then normal classes, varying from only slightly so to greatly so. The commoner class is the biggest culprit of this. Of the five NPC classes, I'd say the Expert, Aristocrat, and Adept all are close to a standard power level, with the Warrior being less powerful and the commoner being the weakest. </p><p></p><p>Using them in your game really depends on the tone. If the game is highly character focused, emphasizing roleplaying and skills over cool abilities, then the characters really might not notice a difference. I would keep a close eye on ELs and bring them down just a little. The halfling Rogue1/Com2 will probably be the one to find the most discrepency between the others and is definately not up to a EL3 challenge.</p><p></p><p>I like the idea of add NPC classes instead of PC classes to make up for level difference. IMO, I find that WoTC erred on the high side when making level adjustments and that a 7th level Wizard is more powerful then a 5th level Drow Wizard but less powerful than a 6th level Drow Wizard. Balancing it with NPC classes is a neat idea but I wouldn't necessarily think them quite up to an EL3 challenge. </p><p></p><p>I would also consider letting the halfling choose perhaps Expert instead of Commoner. The big difference is some bonus skills and roleplaying wise the character could have just been quite adept at faming, or have a lot of other interests on the side (perhaps serving a lot of niches in the town.) I don't know the roleplaying specifics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eryndel, post: 1254958, member: 13120"] Two of the games I've played in since 3.0 came out had us have at least 1 level in an NPC class. That said, the classes are less powerful then normal classes, varying from only slightly so to greatly so. The commoner class is the biggest culprit of this. Of the five NPC classes, I'd say the Expert, Aristocrat, and Adept all are close to a standard power level, with the Warrior being less powerful and the commoner being the weakest. Using them in your game really depends on the tone. If the game is highly character focused, emphasizing roleplaying and skills over cool abilities, then the characters really might not notice a difference. I would keep a close eye on ELs and bring them down just a little. The halfling Rogue1/Com2 will probably be the one to find the most discrepency between the others and is definately not up to a EL3 challenge. I like the idea of add NPC classes instead of PC classes to make up for level difference. IMO, I find that WoTC erred on the high side when making level adjustments and that a 7th level Wizard is more powerful then a 5th level Drow Wizard but less powerful than a 6th level Drow Wizard. Balancing it with NPC classes is a neat idea but I wouldn't necessarily think them quite up to an EL3 challenge. I would also consider letting the halfling choose perhaps Expert instead of Commoner. The big difference is some bonus skills and roleplaying wise the character could have just been quite adept at faming, or have a lot of other interests on the side (perhaps serving a lot of niches in the town.) I don't know the roleplaying specifics. [/QUOTE]
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