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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Loonook" data-source="post: 4568839" data-attributes="member: 1861">You're the one who brings up putting in creatures which will make the PCs 'cry for their mommies' whenever they try to do something which would make a lot of sense; you're also refusing PCs that are of certain alignments . . . but if I needed to outfit an army and I had a Red Wizard arms depot near me, I bet I could get someone to help me out... of course, I use FR as an example because we can talk in that setting as a sort of universal language for this discussion.  And yes, creating a variant spell is great . . . however, when you mention that masters, others, scrolls, etc. could help the person to do something, and then have ideas proffered which would work without researching and other complications . . . it just seems kinda obtuse to accuse someone else of doing something which is 'against the rules' when they're trying to follow the rules for the discussion.  Technically anything can be covered by Rule 0, and your concepts have been strictly Rule 0'd.  I'm trying to give alternate options which exist within the rules so we can discuss the topic without having to rely completely on Rule 0 and fiat to make decisions.  For around 23k (or really, probably a little less for an item at 2/day) to give an average non-magician the ability to use dimension door in a way which would serve without permanency (or another research of it).  Bury the place somewhere with a lot of dangerous pockets, and it may work.Slainte,-Loonook.</blockquote>

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