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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ziegander" data-source="post: 4360221" data-attributes="member: 72250">The reason I think completely replacing all of the player's powers with  the Vestige's powers is a good idea is because the pacts are so versatile and because they allow a Fighter to become a Controller for as long as he wants, and whenever it is needed. If the pacts only replaced the highest level powers you'd have something of equivalent value to multiclassing but INCREDIBLY easier and simultaneously more powerful than standard 4E multiclassing.Indeed, Many of these may need to be rethought, especally the attack and damage bonuses. I was just directly translating the 3.5 Pact Augments. Instead of gaining those types of bonuses getting to keep some of your old features and powers, and access to the recharge power may be apt Pact Augments.I am glad that on the whole people really seem to like the idea. I was honestly expecting a lot of backlash from people wanting a "Binder" rather than people being so excepting of the "anyone as Binder" concept I've got rolling.My main question is how should Vestige Influence work in this system? The way I have it with Amon is just not working for me. Making a Bad Pact should definitely be a bad thing. Oh, and also if someone thinks any of my numbers ae off, go ahead and suggest corrections.Finally, about a pdf, I'm not good with Adobe at all, but if someone wants to work with me to provide one I'd be more than willing to develop crunch. That's what I do.</blockquote>

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