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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8172781" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>If you want to avoid the digital tools and "too much stuff" issues... then the easiest way to do so is to only use the first 4E Player's Handbook. Or <em>mayb</em>e PH I and II.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there will be a number of character classes you won't have access to... but truth be told I think the best time for classes were in just that first PH. Reason being... because the number of powers that each class had was much smaller... the ones they did have were more specific to the classes themselves. Each role and each class had its own schtick and there was much less overlap. Whereas in later years as more and more powers began being created for almost every issue of the online Dragon Magazine... the bleed of what classes could do became wider and wider. And I think to classes' detriment. But if you only use the first PH, you will be able to maintain a specificity with each of those eight classes and keep things tight.</p><p></p><p>That being said... while I think the first PH is the best PH to use for 4E... get Monster Manual <strong>III</strong> for your monsters. The math is much better in that one and your combats will thank you for it. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8172781, member: 7006"] If you want to avoid the digital tools and "too much stuff" issues... then the easiest way to do so is to only use the first 4E Player's Handbook. Or [I]mayb[/I]e PH I and II. Yes, there will be a number of character classes you won't have access to... but truth be told I think the best time for classes were in just that first PH. Reason being... because the number of powers that each class had was much smaller... the ones they did have were more specific to the classes themselves. Each role and each class had its own schtick and there was much less overlap. Whereas in later years as more and more powers began being created for almost every issue of the online Dragon Magazine... the bleed of what classes could do became wider and wider. And I think to classes' detriment. But if you only use the first PH, you will be able to maintain a specificity with each of those eight classes and keep things tight. That being said... while I think the first PH is the best PH to use for 4E... get Monster Manual [B]III[/B] for your monsters. The math is much better in that one and your combats will thank you for it. :) [/QUOTE]
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