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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8391595" data-attributes="member: 83242">I really don't disagree with what you are saying, that is just not what I am talking about.  That is the same issue [USER=82504]@Garthanos[/USER] is having with my comments.  I don't disagree with his points.  My point is that 4e doesn't change.  It always has the same framework from beginning to end.  It is kinda always "epic," how you and G and E area thinking about it, from beginning to end. The fact that you still have levels, that you still get hit points, and you still get your powers in the same way is what makes if feel mundane and not epic to me.  I guess you would say it is the meta-structure of the game that I want to change when I get to epic. It is not about the story or what the character can do (as much) to me, at least with regard to what I am talking about.Does that make sense now? I am not asking you to agree with me, just if you understand what I am talking about, where I am coming from.  I completely understand that it has nothing to do with the game feeling "epic" to you.  I am not saying 4e isn't epic for you. I think E seemed to understand, but I feel like Garth still doesn't. Just because I say the game doesn't deliver on its epic promise for me, doesn't mean I don't think it is a great game or that it somehow lessons the epic-ness for you.  I love 4e and will always defend it (and did for years on the WotC forums), but I can still feel it has faults (just the same as 5e).</blockquote>

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