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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 8395745" data-attributes="member: 82504">Of note perhaps the 5e banishment spell is not of that order either unless the subject has the ability to self return from such in about a minute.One thing I have been recently thinking in terms of is alternate defeated conditions if you have successfully defeated the enemy with your banishment or knock em to hell power(or center of the earth) then the effect is basically permanent (subject to special undoing).If you defeated them with a sleep spell they they are comatose forever *(with an ending condition) like sleeping beauty.If you defeated them with your stone blood power they are turned entirely to stone (see also heavy ritual to remove)Stuff like that.</blockquote>