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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 8396222" data-attributes="member: 82504">4e had official builds what if that was followed through on better. I remember the discussions where Toni mentioned premade build/characters so that sure the system was flexible and you could mix and match but they came in where a few choices cues up a set of benefits you gain over the levels but that were designed so one could later as you understood things retrain or free form recombine.Having powers that naturally level up from heroic to paragon to epic means you have a familiar base that just gets better You could btw almost do it in Character Builder by following through on preferred feats and powers and similar things. Similarly I would suggest equipment packages and rituals/practices then come in, kind of like how certain feats provide a set of rituals you can learn as a ritualist. Any way I love my choice levels because I do surprising things with them.That is where the Prince(ss) / LazyLord build came from a natural outgrowth of combining the content in a thematic way by myself and others.I love my design options and there are so many characters I really cannot build in 5e.</blockquote>