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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 8396236" data-attributes="member: 58416">I can see that point of view. I do think that there's an element of "gardening" to 4E, in that your power choices are an expression of your character.It's not an issue I had with most* of the particular group of people I played 4E with, but I understand the viewpoint.*Related: the axe-using dwarf is an archetype favored by one of the guys I played 4E (and rpgs in general) with, and he struggled because axes had lower proficiency and some "wrong" choices made along the way meant he had trouble hitting things at higher levels. This was highlighted more because some of the other characters in the same party virtually couldn't miss.Personally, I preferred the PHB1 feats of 4E because they made choices more meaningful. I found tradeoffs such as "+1 when... [weapon choice or damage type]" to be more interesting than the later expertise feats which just have a blanket bonus. I feel the PHB1 approach allowed some of the more flavorful options to actually be competitive and meaningful choices. (PHB1 and the early books also had a tone that I liked more than later books.)Still, I can see how 4E could be overwhelming. At the same time, I find that 5E sometimes doesn't give enough choice. Where 4E weapons and options maybe had too much going on, I find that 5E sometimes has too little going on to differentiate choices. Is swinging an axe in 5E very different from a hammer in most cases? Is there a reason to not pick rapier for a Dex weapon? There are feats to address this, but feat choices are so rare that it's tough to want to give up an ability increase or one of the "must have" feats for a highly situational bonus. 5E kinda started on the opposite end of 4E In a lot of ways. I suppose this is all a long-winded way of saying that I can understand your criticisms of 4E (and have been harshly critical of 4E in the past myself,) but I think 5E over-corrected in some areas.</blockquote>

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