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<blockquote data-quote="FoxWander" data-source="post: 3842149" data-attributes="member: 1356"><p>I saw this last week and rather enjoyed it despite the "Why'd they do that- they should've done this" moments- which, after all, are much easier to see from our passive viewer perspective.</p><p></p><p>Most of the 'flaws' that have been pointed out can reasonably be explained as perfectly in-character for everyone. The posse was really in over their heads with Ben and he used that to lull them into underestimating him time and again. Dan didn't shoot the 2nd-in-command despite several opportunities because he's not a killer. He won't kill a man outside of self-defense- no matter how much "sense" it makes to take the guy out. Ben's sense of honor that compels him to treat Dan with some respect is well established thru-out the movie. In fact, that's the main plot of the movie- the relationship between Ben and Dan. That relationship is what makes the final flight to the train, with Ben assisting Dan with his own 'capture' believable.</p><p></p><p>No, I'm fine with every 'flaw' and 'stupid action' thru the whole movie right up until the end. Ben jumps on the prison car and then he and Dan have a manly goodbye chat which ends with Dan getting shot! The amount of stupidity it would take on their parts to somehow think the bad guys would stop shooting once Ben got on the train is just too shocking for words. I mean, sure Dan didn't EXPECT to live getting Ben to the train, that's why he made sure his family would get paid by the stagecoach company, but he was at least TRYING to live. Did they think they were playing tag and Dan would be "safe" once they reach base?! Why didn't Dan just jump on the train too? That was the only "stupid" thing that kind of ruined the movie for me.</p><p></p><p>On the whole it was an excellent western. Awesome performances thru-out that really made the movie work. If only Dan had been shot on that last run TO the train. Then Ben could gun down his gang in outrage, he and Dan could have their manly goodbye and then the last thing Dan does is turn Ben over to the guard on the train- thus earning the payoff for his family. And then he dies in his son's arms. That would've save the movie from that final "what the hell were they thinking" moment and, I think, made it a truly awesome movie. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FoxWander, post: 3842149, member: 1356"] I saw this last week and rather enjoyed it despite the "Why'd they do that- they should've done this" moments- which, after all, are much easier to see from our passive viewer perspective. Most of the 'flaws' that have been pointed out can reasonably be explained as perfectly in-character for everyone. The posse was really in over their heads with Ben and he used that to lull them into underestimating him time and again. Dan didn't shoot the 2nd-in-command despite several opportunities because he's not a killer. He won't kill a man outside of self-defense- no matter how much "sense" it makes to take the guy out. Ben's sense of honor that compels him to treat Dan with some respect is well established thru-out the movie. In fact, that's the main plot of the movie- the relationship between Ben and Dan. That relationship is what makes the final flight to the train, with Ben assisting Dan with his own 'capture' believable. No, I'm fine with every 'flaw' and 'stupid action' thru the whole movie right up until the end. Ben jumps on the prison car and then he and Dan have a manly goodbye chat which ends with Dan getting shot! The amount of stupidity it would take on their parts to somehow think the bad guys would stop shooting once Ben got on the train is just too shocking for words. I mean, sure Dan didn't EXPECT to live getting Ben to the train, that's why he made sure his family would get paid by the stagecoach company, but he was at least TRYING to live. Did they think they were playing tag and Dan would be "safe" once they reach base?! Why didn't Dan just jump on the train too? That was the only "stupid" thing that kind of ruined the movie for me. On the whole it was an excellent western. Awesome performances thru-out that really made the movie work. If only Dan had been shot on that last run TO the train. Then Ben could gun down his gang in outrage, he and Dan could have their manly goodbye and then the last thing Dan does is turn Ben over to the guard on the train- thus earning the payoff for his family. And then he dies in his son's arms. That would've save the movie from that final "what the hell were they thinking" moment and, I think, made it a truly awesome movie. ;) [/QUOTE]
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