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<blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 1176420" data-attributes="member: 8704"><p>Still don't get the anime references (I'm a big anime fan too, I just wasn't all that reminded of anime when I watched it). Even the anime scene in the movie didn't remind me of anime it reminded me of 70's action movies. My like for this movie probably stems from the fact that I grew up watching the same movies he got this movie from. Papaer thin characters and intentional plot holes didn't bother me, cheesy dialog was a must and long walkingscenes where everybody tries to look cool are a staple of this kind of movie. He made a B movie with a real budget and good actors, it's all about style and cool scenes because that's what those movies were about, and it's not just martial arts films, heck get a old Eastwood movie and tell me who the hero was? Most of his characters didn't even have a name (just like "The Bride") or any kind of background, Heck get a copy of a old Charles Bronson movie, he was just mean and violent in them even if he was the good guy, and it's not like he portrayed deep characters he was always the same in every film. These are not character driven plots with lots of in depth development, these are shoot 'em up and make people go "Dirty Harry is so cool" movies. Tarantino intentionally left holes in the plot and included mistakes because that's how those movies were, he didn't write in deep character progressions because that's not what this was about, watch Enter the Dragon, Bruce Lee's character is lucky to even have one paper thin dimension to him and the dialog was so outlandish it was almost too silly to actually sit through, people call it a masterpiece. It's his mimicing of the movies I watched when I was 10 that makes me like this movie so much, it's a bad movie, but it's supposed to be a bad movie it goes way out of it's way to be a bad movie, it's got that throwback cult classic type feel to it. It's made in a old style with old tools and old plots in the same places where the old movies were made (part two takes us to Mexico and includes a master of the 5 animal styles of Kung Fu, the Japanese part is basically over). This is a movie made in the movie world, it basically is a movie about a bad movie, your not supposed to suspend disbelief  that this could happen in the real world your supposed to watch it as if it is in some cool movie world. It's all about style and movie history. Pulp Fiction was the same, heck the title of that movie was "Pulp Fiction" which is a term used for crap literature. </p><p> </p><p>If you don't like this type of movie then you will not like this movie, If he made a homage to old Hammer horror films and you hated those films whould you like the homage? If you don't like cheesy action movies then you probably won't like Tarantino's salute to cheesy action films. They used a Godzilla set for pete's sake, it was a model of a air liner flying over a obviously fake Godzilla set, it was intended to look fake and cheap, that was the point. They had places to put your sword on the airplane and the bad guys were evil high school kids in Kano mask. Heck she wore the same costume as Bruce Lee wore in Game of Death. There was nothing original or innovative here it was a stylistic throwback to 70's B movies, if you don't like those then this is not the movie for you. Heck even if you do like those movies there is no garantee you will like his take on them but if you don't like those then I can pretty much say you won't get this movie. I liked it because it made me remeber when I was young watching Commander USA's groovy movies on Sunday afternoons in the early '80's, it made me remember staying up late to catch A Fistfull of Dollars or sneaking around my mothers back to watch Deathwish, it was action and violence and people looking cool while doing it. I love 40 foot blood sprays and people overacting their death scenes, I love people who walk cool in movies, I love movies that are so shallow I don't have to think at all to figure out what is going on. That's not to say I don't like long winded movies aimed at winning oscars or John Grisham inspired thrillers it's just that sometimes I want to see somebody cut somebody elses head off then say something off the wall, sometimes I want to see a world where everybody owns a samurai sword and people name their assassination squads after snakes, sometimes I want outlandish and silly and this movie delivered in spades.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdavis, post: 1176420, member: 8704"] Still don't get the anime references (I'm a big anime fan too, I just wasn't all that reminded of anime when I watched it). Even the anime scene in the movie didn't remind me of anime it reminded me of 70's action movies. My like for this movie probably stems from the fact that I grew up watching the same movies he got this movie from. Papaer thin characters and intentional plot holes didn't bother me, cheesy dialog was a must and long walkingscenes where everybody tries to look cool are a staple of this kind of movie. He made a B movie with a real budget and good actors, it's all about style and cool scenes because that's what those movies were about, and it's not just martial arts films, heck get a old Eastwood movie and tell me who the hero was? Most of his characters didn't even have a name (just like "The Bride") or any kind of background, Heck get a copy of a old Charles Bronson movie, he was just mean and violent in them even if he was the good guy, and it's not like he portrayed deep characters he was always the same in every film. These are not character driven plots with lots of in depth development, these are shoot 'em up and make people go "Dirty Harry is so cool" movies. Tarantino intentionally left holes in the plot and included mistakes because that's how those movies were, he didn't write in deep character progressions because that's not what this was about, watch Enter the Dragon, Bruce Lee's character is lucky to even have one paper thin dimension to him and the dialog was so outlandish it was almost too silly to actually sit through, people call it a masterpiece. It's his mimicing of the movies I watched when I was 10 that makes me like this movie so much, it's a bad movie, but it's supposed to be a bad movie it goes way out of it's way to be a bad movie, it's got that throwback cult classic type feel to it. It's made in a old style with old tools and old plots in the same places where the old movies were made (part two takes us to Mexico and includes a master of the 5 animal styles of Kung Fu, the Japanese part is basically over). This is a movie made in the movie world, it basically is a movie about a bad movie, your not supposed to suspend disbelief that this could happen in the real world your supposed to watch it as if it is in some cool movie world. It's all about style and movie history. Pulp Fiction was the same, heck the title of that movie was "Pulp Fiction" which is a term used for crap literature. If you don't like this type of movie then you will not like this movie, If he made a homage to old Hammer horror films and you hated those films whould you like the homage? If you don't like cheesy action movies then you probably won't like Tarantino's salute to cheesy action films. They used a Godzilla set for pete's sake, it was a model of a air liner flying over a obviously fake Godzilla set, it was intended to look fake and cheap, that was the point. They had places to put your sword on the airplane and the bad guys were evil high school kids in Kano mask. Heck she wore the same costume as Bruce Lee wore in Game of Death. There was nothing original or innovative here it was a stylistic throwback to 70's B movies, if you don't like those then this is not the movie for you. Heck even if you do like those movies there is no garantee you will like his take on them but if you don't like those then I can pretty much say you won't get this movie. I liked it because it made me remeber when I was young watching Commander USA's groovy movies on Sunday afternoons in the early '80's, it made me remember staying up late to catch A Fistfull of Dollars or sneaking around my mothers back to watch Deathwish, it was action and violence and people looking cool while doing it. I love 40 foot blood sprays and people overacting their death scenes, I love people who walk cool in movies, I love movies that are so shallow I don't have to think at all to figure out what is going on. That's not to say I don't like long winded movies aimed at winning oscars or John Grisham inspired thrillers it's just that sometimes I want to see somebody cut somebody elses head off then say something off the wall, sometimes I want to see a world where everybody owns a samurai sword and people name their assassination squads after snakes, sometimes I want outlandish and silly and this movie delivered in spades. [/QUOTE]
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