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Message: <blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1180349" data-attributes="member: 812">Or to say, "Hey, anybody who smacks the woman he claims to love and calls her a whore (which is what the comment "get thee to a nunnery" would imply to Shakespeare's audience of the time) is kind of a loser. I don't care what century this is."Or possibly to say, "You know, a guy who stabs an innocent man to death and then never expresses the slightest remorse over it -- that's not exactly the coolest thing in the world."But I agree, if you apply 20th-21st century perspectives to it, that'll work, too.Okay, you haven't read the play very carefully. Hamlet's ship WASN'T attacked by pirates. He made that up to explain his return from what should have been certain death. What REALLY happened is that he snuck around, found the document his friends Rosencrantz and Guildenstern were carrying (which, unknown to them, promised Hamlet immediate execution at the hands of the English king), altered the document so that his friends would be executed instead of him (hm, no mealy-mouthed cowardice there, no sir), then had a little holiday in England (presumably congratulating himself on his cleverness) before returning for Ophelia's funeral, so that he could pretend to be upset about a situation for which he himself was responsible.And DID he kick the ass of the best swordsman? We don't know for sure that Laertes IS very dangerous -- he's claimed to be, but we never see him fight anyone else so who knows? And we don't get much information on the fight: Shakespeare's words on the subject are:They fight. Both are struck by the poisoned swordNot exactly a clear ass-kicking outcome, I'd say. Nothing like those poisoned swords to really level the playing field.</blockquote>

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