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<blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 1200854" data-attributes="member: 8704"><p>Well you see the whole point of not 'crucifying" the movie for those gaffes is that they are not gaffes. The movies it was throwing back to were notorius for their loopholes and gaffes, it had those loopholes in it intentionally for stylistic purposes. Now whether that is silly or not is another question entirely, but roasting the movie for it's mistakes would be sort of silly when those <strong>weren't mistakes</strong>. It's not people rationalizing the mistakes it's that it wasn't a mistake to start with. Nobody is letting him "get away with anything" it was a given that the movie would be like that to start with. I've already quoted and linked to this before but I will again:</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0266697/goofs" target="_blank">http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0266697/goofs</a> </p><p> </p><p>THe whole bit in the hospital was a big example of this, why worry about her head being shaved or whether she knew how much time had passsed, after 4 years in a coma your arms aren't going to work either and there is no way to will back lost muscle tone, your talking about months of physical therapy to even be able to get out of the bed, yet she was killing 100's of people within a couple of months. So what are you going to complain about? She was shot in the head and lived with no brain damage? She willed atropied muscles back to full martial arts kick butt working order in 13 hours (or 3 hours or 4.62 hours......), that she flew to Japan and back and still drove around in the Truck who's name cannot be mentioned around here(gee you think maybe the cops would be looking for her and the guys missing truck? It's not like it doesn't stand out.) I could go on and on but it's hard to pick on stuff like that when the whole entire movie was like that. The movie wasn't set in the real world it was set in "movieland" (Tarantino's words not mine, I posted that link before already too) it's supposed to be that way, it being that way is the whole point of the movie, if it wasn't that way then it wouldn't be a homage to 70's action movies, it being that way is what makes (or breaks) the movie. It's hard to pick any scene in the movie that isn't outrageous and unrealistic (Vivica Fox keeps a gun in her cereal box?, Japan is full of killer high school ninja kids? They used a old Godzilla set for the shot of a plane landing when it would of been infinitly cheaper to just go to the airport and shoot footage of a plane landing?) that's the whole point of the movie. How can you "crucify" this movie for that kind of stuff when that kind of stuff is the whole point of the movie, it's supposed to be cheesy.</p><p> </p><p>I can understand people not liking it, it's not for everyone, I can understand people not liking the non-linear storytelling that's not for everyone either, I can understand people not liking the goofy ass violence, and I can understand people not liking the fact that it's a intentional B quality movie, but why pick on it's goofs and continuity lapses when those were all written into the script that way, it's the whole point of the movie. If I thought for a split second that any part of that movie was supposed to be realistic or taken seriously then I would have to call it the most retarded movie ever (as Kai Lord does) the whole movie is one big unrealistic plot hole from beginning to end, that's the whole point. It sort of like coming out of Scary Movie 3 and griping that it wasn't scary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdavis, post: 1200854, member: 8704"] Well you see the whole point of not 'crucifying" the movie for those gaffes is that they are not gaffes. The movies it was throwing back to were notorius for their loopholes and gaffes, it had those loopholes in it intentionally for stylistic purposes. Now whether that is silly or not is another question entirely, but roasting the movie for it's mistakes would be sort of silly when those [b]weren't mistakes[/b]. It's not people rationalizing the mistakes it's that it wasn't a mistake to start with. Nobody is letting him "get away with anything" it was a given that the movie would be like that to start with. I've already quoted and linked to this before but I will again: [url="http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0266697/goofs"]http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0266697/goofs[/url] THe whole bit in the hospital was a big example of this, why worry about her head being shaved or whether she knew how much time had passsed, after 4 years in a coma your arms aren't going to work either and there is no way to will back lost muscle tone, your talking about months of physical therapy to even be able to get out of the bed, yet she was killing 100's of people within a couple of months. So what are you going to complain about? She was shot in the head and lived with no brain damage? She willed atropied muscles back to full martial arts kick butt working order in 13 hours (or 3 hours or 4.62 hours......), that she flew to Japan and back and still drove around in the Truck who's name cannot be mentioned around here(gee you think maybe the cops would be looking for her and the guys missing truck? It's not like it doesn't stand out.) I could go on and on but it's hard to pick on stuff like that when the whole entire movie was like that. The movie wasn't set in the real world it was set in "movieland" (Tarantino's words not mine, I posted that link before already too) it's supposed to be that way, it being that way is the whole point of the movie, if it wasn't that way then it wouldn't be a homage to 70's action movies, it being that way is what makes (or breaks) the movie. It's hard to pick any scene in the movie that isn't outrageous and unrealistic (Vivica Fox keeps a gun in her cereal box?, Japan is full of killer high school ninja kids? They used a old Godzilla set for the shot of a plane landing when it would of been infinitly cheaper to just go to the airport and shoot footage of a plane landing?) that's the whole point of the movie. How can you "crucify" this movie for that kind of stuff when that kind of stuff is the whole point of the movie, it's supposed to be cheesy. I can understand people not liking it, it's not for everyone, I can understand people not liking the non-linear storytelling that's not for everyone either, I can understand people not liking the goofy ass violence, and I can understand people not liking the fact that it's a intentional B quality movie, but why pick on it's goofs and continuity lapses when those were all written into the script that way, it's the whole point of the movie. If I thought for a split second that any part of that movie was supposed to be realistic or taken seriously then I would have to call it the most retarded movie ever (as Kai Lord does) the whole movie is one big unrealistic plot hole from beginning to end, that's the whole point. It sort of like coming out of Scary Movie 3 and griping that it wasn't scary. [/QUOTE]
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