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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Al" data-source="post: 162283" data-attributes="member: 2486">Well, my group has had two experiences with Dragon Disciples: one of the PCs is a dragon disciple, the other was with an end-boss to a Draconic Monastery who was a Dragon Disciple.The PC seems to be not that powerful.  Granted, he is lower level than the rest of the group, but he doesn't seem particularly absurd.  In combat he's probably worse than a straight or prestige fighter, and even though the campaign is reaching the ultra levels (16+) he's still stuck with 3rd level spells.  The NPC was not amusing for me as DM.  It was not the best thought-out NPC, but I still try to do a bit to keep the NPCs interesting.  Basically, he ran a monastery dedicated to a blue dragon who was in a cave nearby.  He thought that by sacrificing victims to the dragon he could gain more power as a DD.  Well, he was probably the least effective end-boss type characters ever.  Round 1 he was hit by feeblemind, and even though he could still charge into battle he was quickly removed.  Still, had he managed to get fully hyped-up he could have been fairly effective.On balance, it seems a fairly weak prestige class.  That's right: fairly weak.  Compared with a straight fighter, the ability bonuses hardly make up for the HD and BAB weakness, and he lacks the arsenal of feats; compared with prestige fighters he seems even more adrift.  Compared with straight spellcasters, he gets blasted away.  No spell level progression makes his spellcasting useful for very little as he ascends the levels, and even low-level hypes can be easily dispelled due to low caster level.  Natural armour is slightly useful, but most high-level characters have amulets/barkskin or such like.  Finally, the breath weapon is something of a joke: by 15th character level you can use a 6d10 weapon once per day, with a straightforward DC save.  Your single-class arcane buddies are hurling Prismatic Sprays around, and even fighters are probably dishing out this much damage in a round.</blockquote>

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