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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 159184" data-attributes="member: 114">Thanks for assorted feedback. I'll try to look at the netbook someone mentioned too.It is great to have additional minds to &quot;beta-test&quot; an idea and highlight potential abuses.To answer some of M_J observations:1. Obviously you can't reduce something below 0th level just like you can't increase something above 9th level. existing rules apply and you couldn't apply these to a cantrip.2. ditto3. Good point. I think that minimagic feats (trendy new name) shouldn't be stackable with each other. Only one could apply.4. A spell doesn't became available to a caster at lower level - he still has to be 5th level wizard/6th level sorcerer and get fireball on his list before he could start potentially using it with a minimagic feat.The initial suggestions are not all created equal <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'm just mentally playing around with the inverse of most of the existing metamagic feats.I like the idea of a minimagic feat which changes duration of a (non-instantaneous) spell to &quot;concentration&quot;. The &quot;Slow spell&quot; variant should perhaps only be applied to spells with an &quot;instantaneous&quot; duration since it doesn't matter how long you take to apply a buffing spell in most cases.n.b. one of the things that would mitigate against abusability is that everyone gets only so many feats - in almost all cases a &quot;proper&quot; metamagic feat would be better than these and would be more likely to be taken - certainly by anyone in my campaign!Cheers,</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 159184, member: 114"] Thanks for assorted feedback. I'll try to look at the netbook someone mentioned too. It is great to have additional minds to "beta-test" an idea and highlight potential abuses. To answer some of M_J observations: 1. Obviously you can't reduce something below 0th level just like you can't increase something above 9th level. existing rules apply and you couldn't apply these to a cantrip. 2. ditto 3. Good point. I think that minimagic feats (trendy new name) shouldn't be stackable with each other. Only one could apply. 4. A spell doesn't became available to a caster at lower level - he still has to be 5th level wizard/6th level sorcerer and get fireball on his list before he could start potentially using it with a minimagic feat. The initial suggestions are not all created equal :) I'm just mentally playing around with the inverse of most of the existing metamagic feats. I like the idea of a minimagic feat which changes duration of a (non-instantaneous) spell to "concentration". The "Slow spell" variant should perhaps only be applied to spells with an "instantaneous" duration since it doesn't matter how long you take to apply a buffing spell in most cases. n.b. one of the things that would mitigate against abusability is that everyone gets only so many feats - in almost all cases a "proper" metamagic feat would be better than these and would be more likely to be taken - certainly by anyone in my campaign! Cheers, [/QUOTE]

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