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<blockquote data-quote="Nareau" data-source="post: 2430632" data-attributes="member: 969">Well, I know you don't want to be a RBDM...but if I were you, I'd just blink at them and say, &quot;OK.&nbsp; They already did save against that poison.&nbsp; Your spell has no effect.&quot;Alternately, you could take the word &quot;resisted&quot; to bring them back with some kind of ability damage.I'm a little put-off by the wish because it seems too &quot;meta-gamey&quot; to me.&nbsp; The poison rules in D&amp;D are an extremly poor abstraction of how real poison works, IMHO.&nbsp; If some kid survived after drinking a bottle of bleach, would you say he &quot;resisted&quot; the poison?&nbsp; If you were bitten by a rattlesnake and managed to survive, did you &quot;resist&quot; the poison?&nbsp; No, not really.The all-or-nothing nature of poison saving throws is an oversimplification.&nbsp; It's a part of the rules that can't easily be translated into an in-game reality.I would prefer the wish be worded like, &quot;I wish my friends had all survived that battle.&quot;&nbsp; Or, &quot;I wish that terrible poison hadn't killed my friends.&quot;Ultimately, I think I would (as the DM) randomly select one of the 3 PC's, and have him come back to life.&nbsp; The other 2 would immediately change into battered, bloody corpses.&nbsp; See, the poison didn't kill your friends...but 2 of them still managed to die during the battle.&nbsp; This is in keeping with the RAW:andBringing multiple people back from the dead is beyond the scope of a Wish.Spider</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nareau, post: 2430632, member: 969"] Well, I know you don't want to be a RBDM...but if I were you, I'd just blink at them and say, "OK. They [i]already did[/i] save against that poison. Your spell has no effect." Alternately, you could take the word "resisted" to bring them back with some kind of ability damage. I'm a little put-off by the wish because it seems too "meta-gamey" to me. The poison rules in D&D are an extremly poor abstraction of how real poison works, IMHO. If some kid survived after drinking a bottle of bleach, would you say he "resisted" the poison? If you were bitten by a rattlesnake and managed to survive, did you "resist" the poison? No, not really. The all-or-nothing nature of poison saving throws is an oversimplification. It's a part of the rules that can't easily be translated into an in-game reality. I would prefer the wish be worded like, "I wish my friends had all survived that battle." Or, "I wish that terrible poison hadn't killed my friends." Ultimately, I think I would (as the DM) randomly select one of the 3 PC's, and have him come back to life. The other 2 would immediately change into battered, bloody corpses. See, the poison didn't kill your friends...but 2 of them still managed to die during the battle. This is in keeping with the RAW: and Bringing multiple people back from the dead is beyond the scope of a Wish. Spider [/QUOTE]

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