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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Talmun" data-source="post: 2433486" data-attributes="member: 17751">The original poster already stated that he and his group have established that the Wish as worded in this case is outside the bounds of Wish as written.  Given that, the party should expect some type of logical, reasonable consequence for pushing the spell beyond it's intended and express use.  To let this slide, even once, without something happening to let the characters know that this isn't such a good idea only encourages misuse and abuse later. This isn't screwing the players; it's the DM doing his job. The fact that the DM in this case wants to let the Wish do effectively three times what it would normally do is the exact opposite of screwing the players.Now, I'm not advocating something apocalyptic here; maybe nothing more than a cut-scene or flavor-text that informs the players that the universe, or one of it's more powerful inhabitants, is "on to" them, and will be watching. Maybe just dirty looks from the DM. One reason I suggest a Marut specifically, and some type of in game consequence in general is because I dislike rules-mechanic or meta-game repercussions for story-interior actions.  (To be honest, I dislike XP loss in all its forms, but that's another thread)  Another reason is that, IMO, part of a DM's job is to find story and role-play opportunities wherever he can, and this seems like a great one.  By the way, any group of players who, after fighting the Marut (or quest, or whatever) takes the attitude "Hey, we can keep doing that and get the XP to come to us!" has other problems that are beyond the scope of this thread, or at least this post.@darthkilmor:I chose a Marut because...well...I forgot about the Quarut,  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  what book is it in?</blockquote>

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