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<blockquote data-quote="sans" data-source="post: 3032335" data-attributes="member: 42554">Fellow gamers, I need your help. I'm having trouble creating my octopus + water elemental combo. The biggest issue is that the elemental familiar only has 19 hit points (half it's master's hp). Most CR8 monster can kill it with one full attack. Unfortunately, if the water elemental dies, my octopus wont be able to breath. I'd have to spend too much resources/spell slots just to buff the guy to a below average level.What can I do? I only have access to Core, PHB2, UA and Complete Series. Can anything in the other books help me out? I really like the concept and it would be a shame to toss it for technical (non-roleplaying) reasons. Also, I'm will to change the class, Beguiller or even Duskblade are interesting alternatives but I have to burn a feat slot on aquiring a familiar (in addtion to getting Improved Familiar). Also, be aware that due to ECL calcs, the octopus is only a 4th level wizard (5th if Isiada oks my request below).Any suggestions would be much appreciated.Thanks![sblock=Isida]Can I reduce the octopuses HD to 1? I can make it tiny or something. The resulting extra wizard level would help a lot (as it would get access to 3rd level spells). Also, I just re-read the improved familar feat and the octopus needs to have at least 5 levels of arcane caster.If my concept is starting to require too many house rules for your taste, just let me know and I'll think of something else.... an awakened daisy growing out of her earth elemental familiar.. no wait, never mind <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />[/sblock]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sans, post: 3032335, member: 42554"] Fellow gamers, I need your help. I'm having trouble creating my octopus + water elemental combo. The biggest issue is that the elemental familiar only has 19 hit points (half it's master's hp). Most CR8 monster can kill it with one full attack. Unfortunately, if the water elemental dies, my octopus wont be able to breath. I'd have to spend too much resources/spell slots just to buff the guy to a below average level. What can I do? I only have access to Core, PHB2, UA and Complete Series. Can anything in the other books help me out? I really like the concept and it would be a shame to toss it for technical (non-roleplaying) reasons. Also, I'm will to change the class, Beguiller or even Duskblade are interesting alternatives but I have to burn a feat slot on aquiring a familiar (in addtion to getting Improved Familiar). Also, be aware that due to ECL calcs, the octopus is only a 4th level wizard (5th if Isiada oks my request below). Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks! [sblock=Isida] Can I reduce the octopuses HD to 1? I can make it tiny or something. The resulting extra wizard level would help a lot (as it would get access to 3rd level spells). Also, I just re-read the improved familar feat and the octopus needs to have at least 5 levels of arcane caster. If my concept is starting to require too many house rules for your taste, just let me know and I'll think of something else.... an awakened daisy growing out of her earth elemental familiar.. no wait, never mind :) [/sblock] [/QUOTE]

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