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<blockquote data-quote="Justin Bacon" data-source="post: 2747647" data-attributes="member: 3795">Then why should dropping the first guy ever result in someone else being more vulnerable to an attack?Case in point:A and B are facing off in combat. Someone releases a pack of dire weasels who all carefully move up to within 5 feet of B. On his turn, B uses his high BAB to make an attack against each dire weasel; kills each in turn; and uses each dire weasel death to Cleave into A.The AoO element of your scenario is essentially irrelevant.Personally, I wouldn't overrule cleaving from inivisible opponents in either case. I'd try to come up with some game-world explanation: Maybe killing dire weasels really gets B's blood pumping. Maybe invisible dire weasel blood splashing in A's eyes distracted him. And so forth.But the rules are clear. And I'm not going to nerf B just because A can't see the opponents B is attacking. Otherwise we start getting into whacko scenarios in which A closes his eyes to avoid cleave attempts from B.Justin Alexander Bacon<a href="http://www.thealexandrian.net" target="_blank">http://www.thealexandrian.net</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Justin Bacon, post: 2747647, member: 3795"] Then why should dropping the first guy [i]ever[/i] result in someone else being more vulnerable to an attack? Case in point: A and B are facing off in combat. Someone releases a pack of dire weasels who all carefully move up to within 5 feet of B. On his turn, B uses his high BAB to make an attack against each dire weasel; kills each in turn; and uses each dire weasel death to Cleave into A. The AoO element of your scenario is essentially irrelevant. Personally, I wouldn't overrule cleaving from inivisible opponents in either case. I'd try to come up with some game-world explanation: Maybe killing dire weasels really gets B's blood pumping. Maybe invisible dire weasel blood splashing in A's eyes distracted him. And so forth. But the rules are clear. And I'm not going to nerf B just because A can't see the opponents B is attacking. Otherwise we start getting into whacko scenarios in which A closes his eyes to avoid cleave attempts from B. Justin Alexander Bacon [url]http://www.thealexandrian.net[/url] [/QUOTE]

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