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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 703315" data-attributes="member: 1279">Jesus f'ing christ . . . sure, you're not a troll. That's what Bugaboo says all the time, too <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. This isn't rocket science. Step away from the rules for a second -- you're arguing that if someone standing 5' to my right shoots a bow, he's putting my life in jeopardy if there's a Cleaver in front of me. We're not the ones that need to suspend disbelief. Neither are we the ones with "logic" problems. Going back to the rules -- the problem is that AoO/Cleave allows you to attack someone with an AoO that did not draw an AoO. The entire POINT of drawing an AoO is that you've left your guard down. In your little system, one can take an AoO against someone that does NOT have his guard down. And that's just stupid. An excellent compromise -- and one I've used -- is to allow AoO/Cleave *only* against foes that are drawing AoOs themselves. For instance, let's say that the Cleaver is facing off five orcs -- they have surrounded him. The orcs realize that they're fighting Conan, shout "<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />!", and try to run like hell -- not take a double move, but just flat-out run. (Hey, orcs are dumb.) In this instance, I'd allow AoO/Cleave. If the Cleaver brings down the first orc that runs, he can follow through and attack the next of the four, and so on. Is it starting to make sense? Finally?</blockquote>

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