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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 3559822" data-attributes="member: 114">The two most silly examples that come to mind immediately1) A paralysed person doesn't provoke AoO. They are standing there, stock-still, unable to defend themselves, but you don't get a free whack at them (unlike the chap casting the spell, moving away from you, drinking the potion etc)2) Cleaving off AoO would allow you to get a free bonus attack against someone who hasn't dropped his guard at all, just because a different numwit provoked the AoO.(in our campaigns we house-ruled situation 2*, we've not actually bothered about situation 1 yet because being paralysed is bad enough... but it is an illogical situation)I imagine someone may be able to come up with some excuse to justify these corner cases of the AoO rules, but I think they class as pretty mind-boggling. Certainly not 'intuitive' effects.* In one campaign we just don't have cleaves off AoO. I think that we've discussed an option (which I particularly think a decent one) is that if an AoO drops a foe and you have cleave, then it counts as if you haven't used that AoO - you get to cleave into a different AoO, but you can't use the cleave attack against someone who hasn't provoked an AoOCheers</blockquote>