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<blockquote data-quote="Zenon" data-source="post: 303810" data-attributes="member: 352"><p>I knew I should have clarified this because the literal minded would pick it apart.</p><p></p><p>The parallel between the rules is an interpertation of the intent behind them, it is not what the rules say. You are correct.</p><p></p><p>However, by the rules, if an attacker is blinded, deafened and suffering from the effects of a Feeblemind spell which reduces his Int to 1, but has a melee weapon in his hand, he threatens an area. If an invisible, flying, magically silenced defender does anything within the threatened area which is on the list as "provokes an AoO", the attacker automatically gets an AoO on him, whether the attacker knows he's there or not.</p><p></p><p>Whether or not they're standing in a field of daisies is irrelevant.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Please point out any passages that refute the above example, I'd be curious to see them.</p><p></p><p>There comes a time when the explicit situation is not covered by the rules, so instead of blindly saying "I guess you can because it doesn't say you can't" as the DM you must judge how this situation is covered in your game.</p><p></p><p>Note the "In Your Game". Substitute "In Your Campaign" if you wish.</p><p></p><p>The only thing that coveres such a situation is in the DMG, pg 9 under Adjucating:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you notice, that is what I have done. I have compared similar(note that it is similar, not "exact situation") and extrapolated a ruling for that situation.</p><p></p><p>What I have done with these rules has been to make a judgement. Nowhere is the above situation cover in the rules.</p><p></p><p>I agree with Neverwinter Knight's post.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zenon, post: 303810, member: 352"] I knew I should have clarified this because the literal minded would pick it apart. The parallel between the rules is an interpertation of the intent behind them, it is not what the rules say. You are correct. However, by the rules, if an attacker is blinded, deafened and suffering from the effects of a Feeblemind spell which reduces his Int to 1, but has a melee weapon in his hand, he threatens an area. If an invisible, flying, magically silenced defender does anything within the threatened area which is on the list as "provokes an AoO", the attacker automatically gets an AoO on him, whether the attacker knows he's there or not. Whether or not they're standing in a field of daisies is irrelevant.;) Please point out any passages that refute the above example, I'd be curious to see them. There comes a time when the explicit situation is not covered by the rules, so instead of blindly saying "I guess you can because it doesn't say you can't" as the DM you must judge how this situation is covered in your game. Note the "In Your Game". Substitute "In Your Campaign" if you wish. The only thing that coveres such a situation is in the DMG, pg 9 under Adjucating: If you notice, that is what I have done. I have compared similar(note that it is similar, not "exact situation") and extrapolated a ruling for that situation. What I have done with these rules has been to make a judgement. Nowhere is the above situation cover in the rules. I agree with Neverwinter Knight's post. [/QUOTE]
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