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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3438495" data-attributes="member: 11586">I've rarely ever played with anyone who uses Cleave in this manner.&nbsp; The most common use I've seen has been using Cleave to try and wade through a group of minions in order to get to the primary target behind them (usually the BBEG).&nbsp; Sure, it's come up a few times, where if you are surrounded by peons while fighting a BBEG and they are attacking you, and you know you can drop them with one shot, it would be benefical to attack the peons first and then Cleave into the BBEG.&nbsp; But IME this hardly comes up in &quot;most situations&quot;.&nbsp; Especially since the DM controls the NPCs and can control the battlefield better than a player could.I never suggested Cleave was an immediate action.&nbsp; Nor did I use the term immediate action.&nbsp; What I said was you get an &quot;immediate&quot; action.&nbsp; I purposely put quotes around the word &quot;immediate&quot; only to signify that I was not talking about the term &quot;immediate action&quot;.&nbsp; I am sorry if that did not come across clearly.&nbsp; At any rate, I think at the very least we can agree that Cleave gives you an immediate attack, right?So to clarify what I was saying at the end of my last post...&nbsp; I would rule that anytime you gain something &quot;immediately&quot; (whether it is a free attack, a 5 foot step, or anything else) during an AoO, it resolves immediately before you return to the normal flow of combat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RigaMortus2, post: 3438495, member: 11586"] I've rarely ever played with anyone who uses Cleave in this manner. The most common use I've seen has been using Cleave to try and wade through a group of minions in order to get to the primary target behind them (usually the BBEG). Sure, it's come up a few times, where if you are surrounded by peons while fighting a BBEG and they are attacking you, and you know you can drop them with one shot, it would be benefical to attack the peons first and then Cleave into the BBEG. But IME this hardly comes up in "most situations". Especially since the DM controls the NPCs and can control the battlefield better than a player could. I never suggested Cleave was an immediate action. Nor did I use the term immediate action. What I said was you get an "immediate" action. I purposely put quotes around the word "immediate" only to signify that I was not talking about the term "immediate action". I am sorry if that did not come across clearly. At any rate, I think at the very least we can agree that Cleave gives you an immediate attack, right? So to clarify what I was saying at the end of my last post... I would rule that anytime you gain something "immediately" (whether it is a free attack, a 5 foot step, or anything else) during an AoO, it resolves immediately before you return to the normal flow of combat. [/QUOTE]

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