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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 745320" data-attributes="member: 2205">Great post, Celebrim, and one that verbalizes a lot of stuff I'd like to have said!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As you say, to some extent, at least, RPGs and literature will never completely come together.  The story-telling conventions are different, for one thing.  The media is too different.  What makes a great story for a novel might make a lousy plot for an RPG campaign and vice versa.However, the whole entire reason for my interest in RPGs way back in the early 80s, or whenever it was that I really "got it" finally, was that I could create collaboratively the same kind of thing that I loved reading about in fantasy literature.  So toolkits that help me towards that goal, instead of having patently different goals, are more useful to me.D&D itself is not truly generic, although the d20 system can be.  It really only takes some rather smallish and simple modifications from D&D to get a d20 game that does more of what I want it to.  Keeping in mind the medium of RPG-type storytelling, I can do better with d20 Modern-ish classes, for example, and a different magic systems (depending on how I want to position magic in a given campaign setting).Oddly enough, in many other games, I find that players (and GMs) don't have the same preconcieved notions as they do in D&D, even if the mechanics aren't a really substantial leap differently.  One of these, is the concept of PCs as "wandering adventurers" out for hire to any county mayor or moderately successful merchant.  I don't think characters in the Wheel of Time game, for instance, or the Star Wars RPG really play like that very often, even though the mechanics (and in the case of the WoT game, even the setting itself) isn't really that drastically different.</blockquote>

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