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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 4405551" data-attributes="member: 5834">I said this "alot of monsters have defenses equal to their AC". Not all monsters.This I have found to be so. It isn't just reflex defense, but all their various defenses lke Fortitude which Thunderwave attacks.How does he not gain an advantage when Rogue's to hit modifier is 3 to 4 higher against either Reflex or AC?I would call that a rather substantial advantage, especially when striking creatures that do have a low reflex defense.I can indeed when other players have powers that allow them add their weapon proficiency bonus when attacking defenses other than AC. It is of no advantage to a wizard to attack Reflex defense if the reflex defense is so high that the weapon proficiency bonus of a melee offsets any advantage he has against reflex or any other defense. A rogue has a better chance of hitting Reflex defense than a wizard by an enormous amount. A wizard has no advantage striking other defenses given that he receives no weapon proficiency. That is what I was referring to. Given the high defenses of lower level creatures in relation to their A.C., the wizard receives no advantage from attacking other defenses. While other characters (especially the rogue) receive a proficiency bonus which very much grants them a much better chance to hit than a wizard when AC is not 2 to 3 points higher than their other defenses. The rogue specifically benefits from being able to strike a low reflex defense far more than the wizard because of his weapon proficiency bonus.I hope that spells it out better for you. I assumed you would do this figuring in your head and naturally understand the perceived contradictory statements since you should know that a rogue receives a weapon proficiency bonus against Reflex defense as well as AC, which gives him an advantage over the wizard.</blockquote>

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