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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4281232" data-attributes="member: 4937">I think that the 4e method would be just tell them what the gemstone is worth.I recall alot of posters on the boards complaining that the 3.X 'Appraise' skill was useless.  After querying this for a while, it turned out that most of them where simply being given the value or quality of everything without any fuss.  That is to say, 'Appraise' was useless because it wasn't being used.Much like tracking encumbrance, or tracking ammunition, or various other bookkeeping tasks, alot of groups seem to have hand waved appraise out of the game because it distracted from what they saw as core gameplay.  Based on the fact that appraise was dropped from the skill list, I'd guess that 4e was designed with these players in mind. As such, I'd guess to play in the 4e fashion the best bet is just to tell them 'its a 100 gp gem' or 'its a masterwork sword' or 'the painting is worth 40000 gp'.  Actually, that last one is probably not very 4e-ish, because paintings aren't functionally equivalent to cash, and I think 4e style play would depricate dealing with physical tangible treasure in favor of abstract value.  Basically, you swipe your 'gold dungeon card' and add the value of the treasure to your credit.  Or run over the square and the treasure appears as a gold number floating above your characters head which is added to your score.But, assuming that isn't your style of play, I think that the proper skill to include 'Appraise' under is that catch all uber skill, 'Insight'.  Unlike 'theivery' another uber-skill that might seem to fit, 'Insight' isn't Dexterity based and specifically covers the ability to learn something by studying.</blockquote>

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