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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5870640" data-attributes="member: 2067">Also Assassins!Can't XP ya, but I'm in perfect agreement. I don't think starting with the core four is quite the disaster some other posters seem to think it might be. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Depends on how they work it. For me, surges aren't great because they weaken they split HP into two halves that only ever partially meet. It's the whole "I'm down to 2 hp, I'm almost dead!....but only in combat. Once we're out of combat, I'm down 4 surges, which sucks, but I've got at least 2 more where that came from. Guess my mortal wound was really more of a bad sprain?"That disjunction musses too much with my suspension of disbelief for me to think of it as Fun Times.OTOH, though, you can just translate surges into raw HP pretty easily, and then you get that slow decrease of health gameplay aspect right back.</blockquote>