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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5875721">While minis are arguable pretty integral to 4e, you could certainly play them without them, as much as dividing feet of older editions to make for squares as multiplying squares by feet to make distance is.  30/5=6 just as much as 6x5=30.  And I still stand by my premise.  Reading a book on soccer, watching it on TV, this will not tell you how you will feel when you play it.  I have a friend who I'm trying to encourage to play 4e.  Do you know why he hates it?  It's not the system or how it plays, it's because he had a terrible DM, so incredibly terrible that he cannot rationalize all the horridness being JUST the DM, so he partially blames the system.  Seeing one game in action, participating in one game, that's like saying you've been on one bumpy road therefore all roads must be bumpy.  This correlation is not logical.Reading a book is tantamount to playing the system, you are experiencing the material as it was intended to be used, in a game.  Personally, every book from every edition(save maybe the Draconomicon) is horridly boring.  Based on just reading the base book for 4e, 3.0/3.5/Pathfinder, 2e and 1e, I would wager I would never play D&D.  I play D&D because my friends sat me down and had me play with them, and I found it to be a ton of fun(I started with 3.5).Going to a movie, going clubbing, that's the same as playing a system.  What you're doing is reading the menu and telling me the food is terrible.</blockquote>

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