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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5879061" data-attributes="member: 22779">What I find very funny about all the criticisms of inconsistency with 4e hp is this idea that earlier editions were somehow internally consistent.  That somehow going more abstract with HP has made HP inconsistent.That's simply not true and it's easy to show.  Take 3 characters.  Character 1 is a 3rd level fighter, character 2 is a 5th level rogue and character 3 is an 8th level wizard.  All three characters have 20 hp.They all get into the same situation.  A fight with an orc with a greataxe.  The orc wins initiative, rolls a crit and does 29 points of damage to each character.  Each character is now at -9 HP, a hair away from dying.  The orc is vanquished by the character's allies and the character is stablized.  However the party does not have any magical healing, and thus, must rely on natural healing.Now, all three characters have exactly the same HP, have suffered exactly the same wound and are recovering in exactly the same way - attended bed rest.The fighter takes 5 days to completely heal (using 3e rules).  The rogue takes 3 days to completely heal.  The wizard takes 2 days to completely heal.How is this consistent?  All three characters are identical in every way - same HP, same stats, everything.  Yet, the fighter takes twice as long to recover as the wizard?  Additionally, for you folks that believe so fervently in HP=Meat, what narration would you use for the blow that felled all three PC's?  It has to be a very serious blow from a greataxe that was almost instantly lethal, yet completely recoverable in two days.  Not even so much as a bruise remaining - after all, all the PC's have full HP.  If HP=Meat, then they cannot have any visible effect of damage if they have full HP can they?I can buy the argument that you don't like the pacing inherent in 4e healing mechanics.  I can buy that 4e's martial healing is wonky.  I can even buy that it's too fiddly.But consistency?  Really?</blockquote>

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