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{April Fools Free Zone} What is the damage for a broadsword??


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If this was really an April Fools-free thread, you would have posted it in the D&D Rules forum, instead of here. Nevertheless, it depends on what you mean by a "broadsword". If you mean a double-edged straight-bladed sword, then just use the longsword stats, like Zhure said. However, IIRC some 2E supplements defined a broadsword as a single-edged sword with a curved blade; you might want to use the scimitar's stats for that.
 

Page 75 in Sword & Fist. "Weapon Equivalency Table"

A Broadsword is equivalent to a Longsword in every way, except for appearance.
So it's a Medium Martial Weapon, 1d8 damage, crit 19-20/x2.
 


hong said:
However, IIRC some 2E supplements defined a broadsword as a single-edged sword with a curved blade; you might want to use the scimitar's stats for that.

I think you are referring to a Chinese Broadsword. These weren't technically broadswords, though. They were only "broadswords" in name, because they were broader than most other Chinese swords.

[Edit] Yeah, that's a Chinese Broadsword. A Chinese Broadsword is also called a Dao. Here are some pics:

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RogueJK said:


I think you are referring to a Chinese Broadsword. These weren't technically broadswords, though. They were only "broadswords" in name, because they were broader than most other Chinese swords.

Oh, there's that too; but I'm sure that I saw somewhere (Complete Fighter's Handbook? Arms and Armour?) that broadswords were drawn more like scimitars than straight-bladed swords.
 

hong said:


Oh, there's that too; but I'm sure that I saw somewhere (Complete Fighter's Handbook? Arms and Armour?) that broadswords were drawn more like scimitars than straight-bladed swords.

The Complete Fighter's Handbook has no mention of a Broadsword, probably since it is described in the 2e PHB.

I checked the 2e Arms and Equipment Guide, and it says:
"The broad sword is a heavy military sword with a double-edged blade. Overall sword length is about three and one-half feet, and the sword is designed mostly for cutting. Most broad swords have a basket hilt or a shell guard. A favored cavalry weapon, the broad sword is known in different cultures by different names, usually dependant on the hilt configuration."

Historically, though, there wasn't one weapon called a "broadsword". It's a classification of weapons that have been used since Roman times. The only thing needed to qualify as a 'broadsword" was a broader-than-average blade. You could have anything from a claymore-like broadsword, to a gladius-like broadsword, to a longsword-like broadsword, to a scimitar-like broadsword.

So there very well may be a scimitar-ish broadsword in a supplement somewhere. But in D&D terms, it is a slightly heavier longsword with a broader blade.
 

2e broadsword

I can tell you the stats for the 2e version of the broadsword.

speed factor of 5, (or whatever a longsword was, they were the same); damage vs. small/medium creatures = 2d4; damage versus large/<and up> creatures = 1d6+1.

I personally changed the dam. to large creatures to be 1d8+1, to make it slightly on more even ground with the longsword, but in truth, the weapon is meant to be worse than a longsword in many ways.

If I were to introduce one into a 3e campaign, I would probably make it a 2d4 martial weapon, one-handed, that simply did 2x damage on a natural 20. It would cost less than a longsword too.
 

The broadsword described in the 2E Arms & Equipment Guide was indeed some kind of bizzare straight bladed cavalry saber. The book was almost completely horrible, with quotes from people that include references to game stats from characters in a D&D world. The true broadsword is the Viking sword, a broad bladed, blunt tipped, chopping weapon.
 
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