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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5674320" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>Scimitar is actually an English word (from the 16th century), passed on from either Middle French or Italian.</p><p> </p><p>Arabs call it a <em>Saif</em> (which simply means "sword").</p><p> </p><p>Persians call it a <em>Shamshir</em> (same thing: "sword"). (Farsi)</p><p> </p><p>Don't know if the Arabic or Persian languages differentiated between the different types by name (one-handers, two-handers, large, great, etc.). In English we call the 2-hander a Great Scimitar. I'm just guessing (but I should be pretty close), but since nouns and adjectives in Arabic have case, gender, and number, and inanimate objects usually recieve the feminine gender - a two-hander or Great Scimitar could be called: <em>Saif-kubra</em>. (Adjectives come after the noun in Arabic - <em>kubra</em> is the feminine singular for great.)</p><p> </p><p>In Arabic, a dagger (the curved ones) are known as <em>Jambiya</em>.</p><p> </p><p>The wavy long daggers from Indonesia/Malaysia were know as <em>Kris</em> (where Frank Herbert got his name for his <em>Crysknifes</em> from Dune).</p><p> </p><p><em>Kindjal</em> is a Turkish word for dagger, but usually describes a long, double-edged, straight or slightly curved dagger (not the extreme curved <em>Jambiya</em>).</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5674320, member: 59506"] Scimitar is actually an English word (from the 16th century), passed on from either Middle French or Italian. Arabs call it a [I]Saif[/I] (which simply means "sword"). Persians call it a [I]Shamshir[/I] (same thing: "sword"). (Farsi) Don't know if the Arabic or Persian languages differentiated between the different types by name (one-handers, two-handers, large, great, etc.). In English we call the 2-hander a Great Scimitar. I'm just guessing (but I should be pretty close), but since nouns and adjectives in Arabic have case, gender, and number, and inanimate objects usually recieve the feminine gender - a two-hander or Great Scimitar could be called: [I]Saif-kubra[/I]. (Adjectives come after the noun in Arabic - [I]kubra[/I] is the feminine singular for great.) In Arabic, a dagger (the curved ones) are known as [I]Jambiya[/I]. The wavy long daggers from Indonesia/Malaysia were know as [I]Kris[/I] (where Frank Herbert got his name for his [I]Crysknifes[/I] from Dune). [I]Kindjal[/I] is a Turkish word for dagger, but usually describes a long, double-edged, straight or slightly curved dagger (not the extreme curved [I]Jambiya[/I]). B-) [/QUOTE]
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