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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 2039887" data-attributes="member: 2205">Quite simple.  It was associated with the Numenoreans.  The Numenoreans were the kings.  Very frequently in the Lord of the Rings and even moreso in the more "apocryphal" works, the kings and the Numenoreans were terms used interchangeably.  Especially by those of other "native" Middle-earth race, such as the men of Bree, or some of the "aboriginal" men of Eriador and Gondor.  In the Shire and at Bree both, several times in the first book, the kings is used synomously with simply the Dunedain.  Hell, even Aragorn is called, by Bilbo, simply the Dunedan (emphasis Bilbo's, not mine.)  Because to Tolkien, the king and his people were one; neither complete without the other.  That's a very transparent theme of his work.  Again, all of this from the basic texts of the main novels.Really, fusangite; refusing to address any other points until I answer a pretty simple (and, I believe, fundamentally irrelevent) question like that?  Either address the points I bring up (if you can) or don't, but don't play games.  Especially when I've already specifically addressed the fact that Aragorn claims that it grew where the Numenoreans had lived or camped.You come across as if you're stalling, or promoting a single (dubious) argument to focus attention away from all of the others.  That doesn't seem to be your style, but I can't account for your post otherwise.  But it's stretching it to say, "hey, the name of the plant is kingsfoil, so it has magical powers that only the king can use" when nothing else in the book seems to indicate that.</blockquote>

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