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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Negative Zero" data-source="post: 1065726" data-attributes="member: 3794">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: From his wife...wow ... um ... i think i disagree with you a lot more now than i did before.how so? there are a few mentions of racial relationships in the races chapter. how does any of this prevent any self-respecting GM from not using those few paragraphs if he doesn't like them? he simply vigourously waves his GM-arms about, points and says: "hey, ... i'm not using that" (he can even leave out the arm waving bit) where else does the implied setting creep in? see above for my issue with this "close connection" that you speak of. as for the "dreadful setting" bit, that seems a bit harsh, especially when one considers that the setting hasn't even been released yet. now why would anyone port over a "setting" to an existing campaign world? for the most part, you don't. you port over aspects of it; the races, the classes and so on. unless of course you plop it into a previously undiscovered country, in which case, where's the problem?  sorry, i don't see it. your comment seems to imply that because of the hideous [your opinion, which i disagree with] setting that is inseperable [again, your opinion, which i disagree with] from the rest of the game, nothing else can be used. that is just flat out, not true. if only one type of game appeals to you, then so be it. but you shouldn't assume that the same holds true for the rest of the world. i personally see nothing wrong with a world where humans are relegated to the background. lots of people like to root for the underdog. besides, once again, it is very easy to simply change this to suit your world/game if you don't like it. (with or without vigourous arm waving) ... only if the GM is lacking in imagination. gotta disagree with you here too. but this is a taste issue, and i suspect we will never agree. but you probably shouldn't go around making absolute statements that are only based on your feeling and personal taste about something. your tone (and yes, i admit that it could just be the way i'm interpreting it) sounds like you're trying to convince others to not buy the product because it didn't suit your tastes. i don't think that's cool at all. there are a lot of things that happen in a fantasy world that "nobody in their right mind" would do. for that matter, there are a lot of things in the real world that would fall into this category as well. very few people only do what's right/sensible/logical all the time. just ask anyone who's ever been in love. (and before you pull a Maraxle-dock-worker on me, it's just an example!) therefore, that statement really isn't a justifiable reason. for that matter, a lot of people could very likely say that nobody in their right mind would play RPGs; they'd get ridiciuled and alienated, and who wants that. but clearly, a lot of people do. once again your personal taste, and not an example of flawed game design.so, to summarize, <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> you don't like the setting and the way it's so closely tied into the book ... even tho, the setting book isn't out yet and it only appears in a few paragraphs in one chapter.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> humans aren't the "main race" ... deffinitely a taste issue</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> the races are lackluster ... that's fair, i wasn't blown away by them either, but does that make them "bad" or even more appropriate to this discussion, that doesn't make the book bad.</li> </ul>all of the above are issues of personal taste. which is what i said to begin with.~NegZ[EDIT]edited for minor formatting changes only.</blockquote>

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