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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7942401" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I agree with Cosmic Kid for the majority of this. </p><p></p><p>I'd also like to add a few thoughts. </p><p></p><p>I love that 4e added in Primal as a power source. It truly fits better in my opinion. I don't like Druids gaining power from gods, if they are gaining power from gods they should be clerics. And in fact, this has led to me just completely removing nature deities from my games (luckily no one has wanted to play a Tempest or Nature Cleric yet) because, why would there be a God of the Forest, if there is a Great Spirit of the Forest? </p><p></p><p>Also, I think it makes complete sense that the Bard is the only "arcane" caster who can naturally heal. We associate bards with music and storytelling, but I think it is important to remember the root of that. They were keepers of lore, gatherers of knowledge and history. A Bard didn't just sing ditties for coppers, they sang the epics that told of the Great War that happened in ancient times to found the kingdom. Homer was a Bard, recounting the tales of great wars and their heroes with surprising accuracy. </p><p></p><p>How does this lend to healing? Bards seek a breadth of knowledge. Out of all the classes I think it makes sense for their lore and knowledge to be the widest, while wizards go deeper into Arcane secrets, Bards go out and try and find the full scope of arcane magic.</p><p></p><p>It is really a fascinating bit. </p><p></p><p>Now, while I'd love a little more clarity and difference between Arcane, Divine, Primal and whatever Bards are, I don't think getting it would make the game better. I think it would simply be a bit of a mess, so I'm content with what we have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7942401, member: 6801228"] I agree with Cosmic Kid for the majority of this. I'd also like to add a few thoughts. I love that 4e added in Primal as a power source. It truly fits better in my opinion. I don't like Druids gaining power from gods, if they are gaining power from gods they should be clerics. And in fact, this has led to me just completely removing nature deities from my games (luckily no one has wanted to play a Tempest or Nature Cleric yet) because, why would there be a God of the Forest, if there is a Great Spirit of the Forest? Also, I think it makes complete sense that the Bard is the only "arcane" caster who can naturally heal. We associate bards with music and storytelling, but I think it is important to remember the root of that. They were keepers of lore, gatherers of knowledge and history. A Bard didn't just sing ditties for coppers, they sang the epics that told of the Great War that happened in ancient times to found the kingdom. Homer was a Bard, recounting the tales of great wars and their heroes with surprising accuracy. How does this lend to healing? Bards seek a breadth of knowledge. Out of all the classes I think it makes sense for their lore and knowledge to be the widest, while wizards go deeper into Arcane secrets, Bards go out and try and find the full scope of arcane magic. It is really a fascinating bit. Now, while I'd love a little more clarity and difference between Arcane, Divine, Primal and whatever Bards are, I don't think getting it would make the game better. I think it would simply be a bit of a mess, so I'm content with what we have. [/QUOTE]
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