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<blockquote data-quote="trimeulose" data-source="post: 329602" data-attributes="member: 1527"><p>I think we are all forgetting (myself not included in this) that only the amunition counts for purposes against DR. If you buy a +12 bow and have masterwork arrows, sorry you still have to deal with the DR of a creature.</p><p></p><p>Now factor in that you have to pay for amunition every fifty shots, and DR creatures can cost you more in amunition than the treasure that you gain from it. </p><p></p><p>If you went up against a 40/+5 creature reg 20 with around say 500 hp, you're gonna spend at least 50 arrows trying to kill the thing. Thats the equivalent of a +5 weapon (fifty thousand gp) gone. If your wizard uses a spell to "better" your ammo for a while, it might cost you the fight. </p><p></p><p>The Arcane archer curbs that, MW arrows are now doing more damage, fly better (better attack bonus), and they bypass DR. To me this is well more than enough. I agree that it would add color, but you might wind up finding out that it would be unbalancing a class that is already at the forefront of overbalancing classes.</p><p></p><p>Another example of how AA is overpowered.</p><p></p><p>ftr6/sor1/AA33:</p><p></p><p>Abilities that matter: Str 34 Dex 40</p><p></p><p>Attacks: off the chart with # of attacks and abilities and all that</p><p>Damage: 1d8 +40 (beats DR of +17)</p><p></p><p>equipment that matters: Bracers of stability (+12 ro str and con), Boots of Swiftness (+12 to dex I think), Elven Great Bow (counts as a +5 weapon when weiled by elf and always has mty pull (str damage bonus) equal to characters str bonus</p><p></p><p>comparing at epic levels but it still shows how the class is unbalancing. 1D8 +40 at max range 1250 ft no range penalty. It could kill the Prismatic Dragon before it would have a chance to get withing range.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trimeulose, post: 329602, member: 1527"] I think we are all forgetting (myself not included in this) that only the amunition counts for purposes against DR. If you buy a +12 bow and have masterwork arrows, sorry you still have to deal with the DR of a creature. Now factor in that you have to pay for amunition every fifty shots, and DR creatures can cost you more in amunition than the treasure that you gain from it. If you went up against a 40/+5 creature reg 20 with around say 500 hp, you're gonna spend at least 50 arrows trying to kill the thing. Thats the equivalent of a +5 weapon (fifty thousand gp) gone. If your wizard uses a spell to "better" your ammo for a while, it might cost you the fight. The Arcane archer curbs that, MW arrows are now doing more damage, fly better (better attack bonus), and they bypass DR. To me this is well more than enough. I agree that it would add color, but you might wind up finding out that it would be unbalancing a class that is already at the forefront of overbalancing classes. Another example of how AA is overpowered. ftr6/sor1/AA33: Abilities that matter: Str 34 Dex 40 Attacks: off the chart with # of attacks and abilities and all that Damage: 1d8 +40 (beats DR of +17) equipment that matters: Bracers of stability (+12 ro str and con), Boots of Swiftness (+12 to dex I think), Elven Great Bow (counts as a +5 weapon when weiled by elf and always has mty pull (str damage bonus) equal to characters str bonus comparing at epic levels but it still shows how the class is unbalancing. 1D8 +40 at max range 1250 ft no range penalty. It could kill the Prismatic Dragon before it would have a chance to get withing range. [/QUOTE]
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