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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 330028" data-attributes="member: 4134">Substituting enchantment bonuses for special powers will rob the Archer of the ability to overcome DR....Nope: ftr6/sor1/something else 3/aa30 (you need to be above level 20 to have more than 10 levels in an epic advanced PrC)We're talking about a 40th-level character. They tend to have greater ability scores....There's actually a limit: 4 attacks +1 for rapid shot +1 for haste (if you have it), being 6 attacks a round. Of course, you can overcome the number of arrows you fire with Improved Manyshot, but that's only one attack, and only against a single foe, no spreading of attacks.Easy to obtain at 40th level for a melee combatant, with magical weapons, high ability scores, and feats like power attack. My bladesinger is 16th level and can already manage 1d8 + 20 and more, and we don't have no epic feats with that one yet.The boots have +6 dex, and a couple of other goodies.First, this stuff costs over 7.000.000 gp, so you can expect something, and second, this can also be had by melee combatants (except the bow, of course, but they can have other insane weapons.Of course, you couldn't kill a Prismatic Dragon before it would have a chance to get into range: Your adult Prismatic Dragon (CR39, so appropriate for 40th level characters) could fly ("running") to within 50 feet of you in the first round, and in the second, you'd experience a Prismatic Breath weapon, forcing you to save against DC 49.Within that first round, you'd have to beat AC 64 (with a -2 penalty because the dragon's running). and hit often enough to inflict 1032 points of damage - that would be around 30 hits with the bow. And you don't have 30 attacks with a bow, you have 6 at most. And Manyshot only works for foes within 30 feet.Let's look at a 40th-level melee fighter, to look what damage he can deal.Fighter 40.We give him the boots of swiftness and the bracers of stability, and a weapon that costs around the same as the elven great bow: a +5 Sonic Blast Keen Mercurial Greatsword.Among his feats he'll have Exotic Weapon Proficiency, Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, and the Epic counterpart of those feats, as well as the Power Attack Feat chain, and penetrate DR.STR 44.Attacks. 4 (5 with haste). +56/+51/+46/+41 (+56)Damage: 2d8+37 + 3d6 sonic. Crit at 18-20: 8d8+148 + 12d6 sonic.That's 48 + 10 / 184 + 42 per hit on average. (having just a +12 Sword would mean 2d8 + 44 = 53 and 8d8 + 176 = 212).And he hasn't used power attack yet....Of course, he cannot attack foes at a distance of over 1000 feet, but he'll probably have a better AC and more HP to compensate for his need to enter melee (especially if he has armor skin and damage reduction and stuff, not unlikely with 40 levels worth of fighter feats!)This melee fighter outdamages your archer, and I haven't even used Prestige Classes (think of a Barbarian/Frenzied berserker with STR beyond 60, and power attack for 2 points of damage for every point of AC spent)</blockquote>

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