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<blockquote data-quote="Torin Ironfist" data-source="post: 3656039" data-attributes="member: 53615"><p>fifth, we are talking about the subject of the thread, not your hijack post <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> (no offense intended). </p><p></p><p>Fathertome I do not see anywhere in the PHB where it explicitly states that a touch spell can be delivered via an unarmed strike and that the spell otherwise functions as normal... i would very much like to find something to that effect, so if you would please give me a page number to reference i would be very appreciative <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> thanks a bunch.</p><p></p><p>(eat it rokes) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>*edit*</p><p></p><p>i think i found what you are referring to, but hit me with a page number just in case.</p><p></p><p>The room for argument comes in (in others minds, not my own) when the PHB says something like 'when resolving damage, you do both your normal damage <strong>and</strong> spell damage" whereas arcane channeling says something to the effect of "when you connect with your attack, resolve your weapon damage, <strong>then</strong> your spell damage" , suggesting that <em>possibly</em> the devs meant to say the spell is dormant in your weapon, and wouldnt have any function, unlike when its on your hand.</p><p></p><p>personally i believed that unless stated otherwise, the spell would function in all ways like it would on your hand, but maybe im wrong... I feel that if it is not to function like it does on your hand, and is dormant so to speak on your weapon, that you shouldnt be able to use your weapon as an extension of your hand and make a touch attack with your weapon to discharge the spell, but that you ~must~ swing and do damage to activate the spell, making the whole concept a little silly imo.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Torin Ironfist, post: 3656039, member: 53615"] fifth, we are talking about the subject of the thread, not your hijack post :P (no offense intended). Fathertome I do not see anywhere in the PHB where it explicitly states that a touch spell can be delivered via an unarmed strike and that the spell otherwise functions as normal... i would very much like to find something to that effect, so if you would please give me a page number to reference i would be very appreciative :) thanks a bunch. (eat it rokes) :) :) :) *edit* i think i found what you are referring to, but hit me with a page number just in case. The room for argument comes in (in others minds, not my own) when the PHB says something like 'when resolving damage, you do both your normal damage [B]and[/B] spell damage" whereas arcane channeling says something to the effect of "when you connect with your attack, resolve your weapon damage, [B]then[/B] your spell damage" , suggesting that [I]possibly[/I] the devs meant to say the spell is dormant in your weapon, and wouldnt have any function, unlike when its on your hand. personally i believed that unless stated otherwise, the spell would function in all ways like it would on your hand, but maybe im wrong... I feel that if it is not to function like it does on your hand, and is dormant so to speak on your weapon, that you shouldnt be able to use your weapon as an extension of your hand and make a touch attack with your weapon to discharge the spell, but that you ~must~ swing and do damage to activate the spell, making the whole concept a little silly imo. [/QUOTE]
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