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<blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5698098" data-attributes="member: 78958"><p>Apart from the Paladin example, which just isn't pertinent, let's take a look: if I have the Power Attack feat and get Str damaged below 13, do I still have PA? Sure, it says so right on my character sheet!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't lose a feat just because you don't fulfill a prerequisite anymore. You just can't <strong>use </strong>it for as long as that prerequisite remains unfulfilled. Nowhere in any PrC's requirements does it say "must be able to <strong>use </strong>all the feats that are listed above RIGHT NOW".</p><p></p><p>If I'm a Blackguard and get Str damaged by a Shadow, so now I'm Str 12 until I get a Lesser Restoration. I can't use PA for the time being, but I sure as hell can use my Blackguard class features (spells etc.)! What's more, if I happen to gain enough XP to level up, I can take another Blackguard level just fine RIGHT NOW, because I do <em>have </em>the PA, Cleave, and Improved Sunder, even though I can't use them until that cleric gets his butt over here. </p><p>Heck, he doesn't even have to cast Lesser Restoration, a simple Bull's Strength would be just fine. Or maybe he can lend me those Gauntlets of Ogre Strength of his, and I'll be great.</p><p>[funnily, by RAW I couldn't take the Great Cleave feat RIGHT NOW even if my levelup permits me to choose another feat. But no sane DM would disallow it, I wager]</p><p></p><p>Another question to you: do you really want to introduce <em>even more</em> bookkeeping into effects that temporarily change ability scores?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Empirate, post: 5698098, member: 78958"] Apart from the Paladin example, which just isn't pertinent, let's take a look: if I have the Power Attack feat and get Str damaged below 13, do I still have PA? Sure, it says so right on my character sheet! You don't lose a feat just because you don't fulfill a prerequisite anymore. You just can't [B]use [/B]it for as long as that prerequisite remains unfulfilled. Nowhere in any PrC's requirements does it say "must be able to [B]use [/B]all the feats that are listed above RIGHT NOW". If I'm a Blackguard and get Str damaged by a Shadow, so now I'm Str 12 until I get a Lesser Restoration. I can't use PA for the time being, but I sure as hell can use my Blackguard class features (spells etc.)! What's more, if I happen to gain enough XP to level up, I can take another Blackguard level just fine RIGHT NOW, because I do [I]have [/I]the PA, Cleave, and Improved Sunder, even though I can't use them until that cleric gets his butt over here. Heck, he doesn't even have to cast Lesser Restoration, a simple Bull's Strength would be just fine. Or maybe he can lend me those Gauntlets of Ogre Strength of his, and I'll be great. [funnily, by RAW I couldn't take the Great Cleave feat RIGHT NOW even if my levelup permits me to choose another feat. But no sane DM would disallow it, I wager] Another question to you: do you really want to introduce [I]even more[/I] bookkeeping into effects that temporarily change ability scores? [/QUOTE]
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