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<blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5698261" data-attributes="member: 78958"><p>Power Attack is not an 'ability', whatever that is supposed to be - it's not a game term, unlike 'ability score'. Gauntlets of Ogre Power don't grant Power Attack, they grant +2 to Str. If you qualify for Power Attack using those gauntlets, then sell them, that doesn't mean you lose Power Attack. It only means you cannot use it anymore - <em>except to qualify for prestige classes or anything else merely requiring you possess the feat</em>.</p><p></p><p>Blackguard prereqs:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Str 13+? Not in evidence. If I somehow manage to just <em>have </em>the feats required, that's enough. Note that in the prerequisites of the Cleave and Improved Sunder feats themselves, Str 13 is a <em>separate requirement <u>on top of</u> </em>Power Attack. For Blackguard, it isn't. What does that tell you?</p><p></p><p>Another thing: Some feats can be taken if you don't fulfill the prerequisites. Monks can explicitly take Stunning Fist at first level even though their BAB probably isn't +8, Rangers can take Two-Weapon Fighting even if they have Dex 6.</p><p>Does a Ranger/Tempest with the two-weapon combat style (and wearing light armor) somehow lose the benefits of the Tempest prestige class when his Dex is below 13?</p><p></p><p></p><p>BTW, thanks for the Complete Warrior citation - that should defuse the Jester's doubts, at least.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Empirate, post: 5698261, member: 78958"] Power Attack is not an 'ability', whatever that is supposed to be - it's not a game term, unlike 'ability score'. Gauntlets of Ogre Power don't grant Power Attack, they grant +2 to Str. If you qualify for Power Attack using those gauntlets, then sell them, that doesn't mean you lose Power Attack. It only means you cannot use it anymore - [I]except to qualify for prestige classes or anything else merely requiring you possess the feat[/I]. Blackguard prereqs: Str 13+? Not in evidence. If I somehow manage to just [I]have [/I]the feats required, that's enough. Note that in the prerequisites of the Cleave and Improved Sunder feats themselves, Str 13 is a [I]separate requirement [U]on top of[/U] [/I]Power Attack. For Blackguard, it isn't. What does that tell you? Another thing: Some feats can be taken if you don't fulfill the prerequisites. Monks can explicitly take Stunning Fist at first level even though their BAB probably isn't +8, Rangers can take Two-Weapon Fighting even if they have Dex 6. Does a Ranger/Tempest with the two-weapon combat style (and wearing light armor) somehow lose the benefits of the Tempest prestige class when his Dex is below 13? BTW, thanks for the Complete Warrior citation - that should defuse the Jester's doubts, at least. [/QUOTE]
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