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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8807294" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>[spoiler="34 Total Divination Spells"]</p><p>true strike</p><p>detect magic</p><p>identify</p><p>detect thoughts</p><p>locate object</p><p>see invis</p><p>clairvoyance</p><p>Sending</p><p>Tongues</p><p>Arcane Eye</p><p>locate creature</p><p>contact other plane</p><p>Legend Lore</p><p>Rary's telepathic bond</p><p>Scrying</p><p>True seeing</p><p>Telepathy</p><p>Foresight</p><p>guidance</p><p>Dretect evil & good</p><p>Detect Magic</p><p>Detect poison & disease</p><p>Augury</p><p>Find Traps</p><p>divination</p><p>commune</p><p>Legend Lore</p><p>Find the path</p><p>True seeing</p><p>Hunter's Mark</p><p>Speak with animals</p><p>Beast sense</p><p>Locate animals or plants</p><p>Commune with nature</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p>[spoiler="28 Total Illusion Spells"]</p><p>Dancing Lights</p><p>Minor illusion</p><p>Color spray</p><p>Disguise Self</p><p>Illusory Script</p><p>Silent Image</p><p>Blur</p><p>Invisibility</p><p>Magic Mouth</p><p>Mirror Image</p><p>Phantasmal Force</p><p>Fear</p><p>Hypnotic Pattern</p><p>Major Image</p><p>Phantom Steed</p><p>Greater Invis</p><p>Hallucinatory Terrain</p><p>Phantasmal Killer</p><p>Creation</p><p>Dream</p><p>Mislead</p><p>Seeming</p><p>Programmed Illusion</p><p>Mirage Arcane</p><p>Project Image</p><p>Simulacrum</p><p>Weird</p><p>Silence</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p>[spoiler="34 Total Enchantment Spells"]</p><p>Vicious Mockery</p><p>Charm Person</p><p>Dissonant whispers</p><p>Hex</p><p>Sleep</p><p>Tasha's hideous Layughter</p><p>Calm Emotions</p><p>Crown of Madness</p><p>Enthrall</p><p>Hold Person</p><p>Suggestion</p><p>Compulsion</p><p>Confusion</p><p>Dominate Person</p><p>Geas</p><p>Hold Monster</p><p>Modify Memory</p><p>Mass Suggestion</p><p>ottos irresistable Dance</p><p>Antipathy/Sympathy</p><p>Dominate Monster</p><p>Feeblemind</p><p>Glibness</p><p>Power Word Stun</p><p>Power Word Kill</p><p>Bane</p><p>Bless</p><p>Command</p><p>Compelled Duel</p><p>Heroism</p><p>Zone of Truth</p><p>Animal Friendship</p><p>Animal Messenger</p><p>Dominate Beast</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p>[spoiler="68 Total Transmutation Spells"]</p><p>Mending</p><p>Perstidigitation</p><p>Expeditious Rertreat</p><p>Feather Fall</p><p>Jump</p><p>Longstrider</p><p>Thunderwave</p><p>Alter Self</p><p>Blindness/Deafness</p><p>Darkvision</p><p>Enlarge/reduce</p><p>Knock</p><p>Levitate</p><p>Magic Weapon</p><p>Rope Trick</p><p>Shatter</p><p>Spider Climb</p><p>Blink</p><p>Fly</p><p>Haste</p><p>Slow</p><p>Water Breathing</p><p>Control Water</p><p>Fabricate</p><p>Polymorph</p><p>Stoneshape</p><p>Stoneskin</p><p>Animate Objects</p><p>Passwall</p><p>Telekinesis</p><p>Disintegrate</p><p>Flesh To Stone</p><p>Move Earth</p><p>Etheralness</p><p>Reverse Gravity</p><p>Sequester</p><p>Control Weather</p><p>Shapechange</p><p>Tiomestop</p><p>true Polymorph</p><p>Thaumaturgy</p><p>Purify Food & Drink</p><p>Etheralness</p><p>Regenerate</p><p>Druidcraft</p><p>Message</p><p>Shillelagh</p><p>Thorn Whip</p><p>Create or Destroy Water</p><p>Goodberry</p><p>Barkskin</p><p>Cordon of Arrows</p><p>Darkvision</p><p>Enhance Ability</p><p>Heat Metal</p><p>Spike Growth</p><p>Elemental Weapon</p><p>Lightning Arrow</p><p>Meld into stone</p><p>Plant Growth</p><p>Speak With Plants</p><p>Water Breathing</p><p>Water Walk</p><p>Control Water</p><p>Giant Insect</p><p>Awaken</p><p>Move Earth</p><p>Wind Walk</p><p>Animal Shapes</p><p>Control Weather</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p>I should certainly hope that the resulting one hundred sixty four spell spell selection "<em>seems to work</em>" when the 2014 phb bard spell list consists of 121 spells if I counted right. By comparison the entire arcane spell list has 230 spells with 105 in Divine & 123 in Primal. <strong>Given the list that "<em>seems</em> to work" is significantly larger than the Divine & Primal lists respectively in addition to being quite a bit larger than the 2014 bard list wouldn't it be odd if a list just over 70% the size of the entire arcane list did not "<em>seem </em>to work"?</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8807294, member: 93670"] [spoiler="34 Total Divination Spells"] true strike detect magic identify detect thoughts locate object see invis clairvoyance Sending Tongues Arcane Eye locate creature contact other plane Legend Lore Rary's telepathic bond Scrying True seeing Telepathy Foresight guidance Dretect evil & good Detect Magic Detect poison & disease Augury Find Traps divination commune Legend Lore Find the path True seeing Hunter's Mark Speak with animals Beast sense Locate animals or plants Commune with nature [/spoiler] [spoiler="28 Total Illusion Spells"] Dancing Lights Minor illusion Color spray Disguise Self Illusory Script Silent Image Blur Invisibility Magic Mouth Mirror Image Phantasmal Force Fear Hypnotic Pattern Major Image Phantom Steed Greater Invis Hallucinatory Terrain Phantasmal Killer Creation Dream Mislead Seeming Programmed Illusion Mirage Arcane Project Image Simulacrum Weird Silence [/spoiler] [spoiler="34 Total Enchantment Spells"] Vicious Mockery Charm Person Dissonant whispers Hex Sleep Tasha's hideous Layughter Calm Emotions Crown of Madness Enthrall Hold Person Suggestion Compulsion Confusion Dominate Person Geas Hold Monster Modify Memory Mass Suggestion ottos irresistable Dance Antipathy/Sympathy Dominate Monster Feeblemind Glibness Power Word Stun Power Word Kill Bane Bless Command Compelled Duel Heroism Zone of Truth Animal Friendship Animal Messenger Dominate Beast [/spoiler] [spoiler="68 Total Transmutation Spells"] Mending Perstidigitation Expeditious Rertreat Feather Fall Jump Longstrider Thunderwave Alter Self Blindness/Deafness Darkvision Enlarge/reduce Knock Levitate Magic Weapon Rope Trick Shatter Spider Climb Blink Fly Haste Slow Water Breathing Control Water Fabricate Polymorph Stoneshape Stoneskin Animate Objects Passwall Telekinesis Disintegrate Flesh To Stone Move Earth Etheralness Reverse Gravity Sequester Control Weather Shapechange Tiomestop true Polymorph Thaumaturgy Purify Food & Drink Etheralness Regenerate Druidcraft Message Shillelagh Thorn Whip Create or Destroy Water Goodberry Barkskin Cordon of Arrows Darkvision Enhance Ability Heat Metal Spike Growth Elemental Weapon Lightning Arrow Meld into stone Plant Growth Speak With Plants Water Breathing Water Walk Control Water Giant Insect Awaken Move Earth Wind Walk Animal Shapes Control Weather [/spoiler] I should certainly hope that the resulting one hundred sixty four spell spell selection "[I]seems to work[/I]" when the 2014 phb bard spell list consists of 121 spells if I counted right. By comparison the entire arcane spell list has 230 spells with 105 in Divine & 123 in Primal. [B]Given the list that "[I]seems[/I] to work" is significantly larger than the Divine & Primal lists respectively in addition to being quite a bit larger than the 2014 bard list wouldn't it be odd if a list just over 70% the size of the entire arcane list did not "[I]seem [/I]to work"?[/B] [/QUOTE]
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