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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 4738579" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p>Ok, let me see how this can shape up... You have your +6 Cunning Dagger in one hand, and +6 Staff of Ruin in your off-hand... You're doing 2x enhancement bonus of your staff extra damage (property of staff + Dual Implement Spellcaster), and with Spell Focus and an epic Phrenic Crown, all of your spells that target Will have a -2 -4 -3 = -9 to saves, without using any powers whatsoever. Or, swap your Staff for an Orb of Ultimate Imposition and 1/enc you can do -9 -(wisdom bonus) -6 to one creature, meaning with a 5 wisdom modifier you have -20 to saves 1/enc...</p><p></p><p>But honestly, we should probably not forget the Winter Sovereign epic destiny, which gives a -5 to all saves with cold powers, and the ability to make any daily into a cold power. Hello, -14 to save Legion's Hold! Might as well throw Enlarge Spell on that one too so you can be out of Orcus' aura's range when you stunlock him for all of time with a -25 to save.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But maybe this isn't how this works. We'll have to see what the text is; maybe you have a limited selection for your implements and you can't actually pick up a melee weapon as an implement. Oh, except: eladrin specifically can with Eladrin Sword, so... yeah. What are the rules on changing your race again? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 4738579, member: 9789"] Ok, let me see how this can shape up... You have your +6 Cunning Dagger in one hand, and +6 Staff of Ruin in your off-hand... You're doing 2x enhancement bonus of your staff extra damage (property of staff + Dual Implement Spellcaster), and with Spell Focus and an epic Phrenic Crown, all of your spells that target Will have a -2 -4 -3 = -9 to saves, without using any powers whatsoever. Or, swap your Staff for an Orb of Ultimate Imposition and 1/enc you can do -9 -(wisdom bonus) -6 to one creature, meaning with a 5 wisdom modifier you have -20 to saves 1/enc... But honestly, we should probably not forget the Winter Sovereign epic destiny, which gives a -5 to all saves with cold powers, and the ability to make any daily into a cold power. Hello, -14 to save Legion's Hold! Might as well throw Enlarge Spell on that one too so you can be out of Orcus' aura's range when you stunlock him for all of time with a -25 to save. But maybe this isn't how this works. We'll have to see what the text is; maybe you have a limited selection for your implements and you can't actually pick up a melee weapon as an implement. Oh, except: eladrin specifically can with Eladrin Sword, so... yeah. What are the rules on changing your race again? :) [/QUOTE]
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