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<blockquote data-quote="Frostbiter01" data-source="post: 6821855" data-attributes="member: 6677201"><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000">Ok the Wizard of 14th level that I am DMing, has been out of control since about 11th level. He finally got the spell permanency and used it on himself forboth 'See Invisible' and Arcane Sight. If we read Arcane sight it gives him theinformation instantaneously of all auras in his field of vision no matter howfar away There is no overblinding him either even when each person he islooking at has 20 magical auras. As the DM this is taxing going through citieswith their myriad of spells from lights to alarms and all the spells on peopleas they walk. It has really slowed the game down especially when he does notwant the rest of the party to know and you have to pass secret notes.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000">The biggest issue has been when going into houses and shops.Those knowledgably of the glowing blue eyes and arcane site will not permitthem in which again cuts down the parties movements in a town to get help. Noone wants a wizard in their establishment seeing their magical wards. Alsoencounters are totally destroyed with the power being given and school ofmagic. Illusions are almost totally useless. Whether a ploymorphed dragon or doppelgangerthere seems to be know sneaking up on him. </span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000">The only way I have been able to thwart is use two parts ofthe spell description against them. First the eyes glow giving off even a smallbit of light & gives him away invisibly but he remedied that with hoodedglasses with dark lenses. Then it says 'what he can see' so I have had to coverthings in darkness, illusions and other things. Since it is permanent dispelonly suppresses it for several rounds and then it returns.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000">My question is twofold. First are we playing it correctlyand then secondly outside of non-detection spells on everything (not reallypossible) what else can be done to thwart this spell? I did see an articlesaying that Detect magic could be seen as a threat if used by an Invisiblemagic user to locate an enemy thus rendering him visible. Since this is on allthe time if he walked into the room with see invisibility and arcane sight on permanentlywill he become visible because these are seen as threatening actions that touchthe invisible creature in the room?</span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000">Hope I did not ramble too much?</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frostbiter01, post: 6821855, member: 6677201"] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Ok the Wizard of 14th level that I am DMing, has been out of control since about 11th level. He finally got the spell permanency and used it on himself forboth 'See Invisible' and Arcane Sight. If we read Arcane sight it gives him theinformation instantaneously of all auras in his field of vision no matter howfar away There is no overblinding him either even when each person he islooking at has 20 magical auras. As the DM this is taxing going through citieswith their myriad of spells from lights to alarms and all the spells on peopleas they walk. It has really slowed the game down especially when he does notwant the rest of the party to know and you have to pass secret notes.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]The biggest issue has been when going into houses and shops.Those knowledgably of the glowing blue eyes and arcane site will not permitthem in which again cuts down the parties movements in a town to get help. Noone wants a wizard in their establishment seeing their magical wards. Alsoencounters are totally destroyed with the power being given and school ofmagic. Illusions are almost totally useless. Whether a ploymorphed dragon or doppelgangerthere seems to be know sneaking up on him. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]The only way I have been able to thwart is use two parts ofthe spell description against them. First the eyes glow giving off even a smallbit of light & gives him away invisibly but he remedied that with hoodedglasses with dark lenses. Then it says 'what he can see' so I have had to coverthings in darkness, illusions and other things. Since it is permanent dispelonly suppresses it for several rounds and then it returns.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]My question is twofold. First are we playing it correctlyand then secondly outside of non-detection spells on everything (not reallypossible) what else can be done to thwart this spell? I did see an articlesaying that Detect magic could be seen as a threat if used by an Invisiblemagic user to locate an enemy thus rendering him visible. Since this is on allthe time if he walked into the room with see invisibility and arcane sight on permanentlywill he become visible because these are seen as threatening actions that touchthe invisible creature in the room?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Hope I did not ramble too much?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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