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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 2015545" data-attributes="member: 1465">The benefit would clearly be to discourage dipping into Fighter (or another combat class) for all the proficiencies in 1 level.The lack of ASF would benefit characters who are either Fighter/Wizard, in which case they are already kinda weak in spellcasting (unless you allow Eldritch Knight or similar PrCl) and would normally have a HARD time casting in heavy armor, or who have spent 3 feats which is a huge price IMHO.Also, light armors can on the average (unless they have large bonuses or special abilities) be disregarded by a caster who knows Mage Armor, so the problem is rather relative to medium and heavy armor.That said, I think your idea should be fine, but be sure to KEEP ASF for characters without the proficiency. You know, a wizard CAN wear heavy armor without the proficiency: he suffers ACP to attacks also, but if he's not casting rays or touch spells, he may not care at all. Therefore, you should make the "no ASF" a benefit of the proficiencies, rather than a general rule.If you find out that medium/heavy armor are still pretty good for wizards even with your house rules, you can switch ASF with a Concentration check which is usually much lighter.</blockquote>