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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 1226522" data-attributes="member: 114">This is an interesting thread. On the basis of it I think I've changed my mind about ASF...In the future I'll eliminate it if you have proficiency in the armour. Clerics have proficiency in heavy armour, thus they don't get SF. Wizards can use a feat for armour proficiency, in which case they don't get SF (trading some other feat they might take for a bit of extra defense). Wizards can multiclass with fighter etc. to get the proficiency (and then suffer the &quot;level behind in spellcasting&quot; syndrome).At the moment I can't see any in-game reasons why I wouldn't want to nix ASF if proficiency is available. It explains the current classes that don't get it, it isn't a cost-free option for arcane casters, it explains why bards can cast in light armour (they have that armour proficiency) and it does something to encourage F/MU multiclasses, offsetting their obvious caster deficiencies.It sounds like an all-good amendment to me!Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 1226522, member: 114"] This is an interesting thread. On the basis of it I think I've changed my mind about ASF... In the future I'll eliminate it if you have proficiency in the armour. Clerics have proficiency in heavy armour, thus they don't get SF. Wizards can use a feat for armour proficiency, in which case they don't get SF (trading some other feat they might take for a bit of extra defense). Wizards can multiclass with fighter etc. to get the proficiency (and then suffer the "level behind in spellcasting" syndrome). At the moment I can't see any in-game reasons why I wouldn't want to nix ASF if proficiency is available. It explains the current classes that don't get it, it isn't a cost-free option for arcane casters, it explains why bards can cast in light armour (they have that armour proficiency) and it does something to encourage F/MU multiclasses, offsetting their obvious caster deficiencies. It sounds like an all-good amendment to me! Cheers [/QUOTE]

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