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<blockquote data-quote="AeroDm" data-source="post: 1266929" data-attributes="member: 13650">While I agree that ASF often seems rather silly and removing it makes some of the assumptions of the game work better, I think that it would lead to the detriment of wizards.&nbsp; What wizard wont multiclass if doig so affords them weapons and armor proficiencies?&nbsp; Picking up one level of fighter boosts your HD, BAB, and most importantly would grant the weapon and armor prof.The most powerful wizards would no longer be straight wizards as the one level casting loss is balance, imo, by +8 (or more) AC.&nbsp; Likewise, the knowledge that you will be wearing heavy armor allows you drop that high stat you would have placed in Dex and make that Con even higher.&nbsp; I also feel that it is imoportant to note, especially since this is the house rule forum, that when people tweak the rules about magic, they usually don't stop with one thing.&nbsp; Many of the responders probably also responded about allowing class level to replace caster level or the like.&nbsp; Now not only are you encouraging multiclassing for the explicit benefits, but you are reducing the implicit hindrances.&nbsp; Not good overall.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AeroDm, post: 1266929, member: 13650"] While I agree that ASF often seems rather silly and removing it makes some of the assumptions of the game work better, I think that it would lead to the detriment of wizards. What wizard wont multiclass if doig so affords them weapons and armor proficiencies? Picking up one level of fighter boosts your HD, BAB, and most importantly would grant the weapon and armor prof. The most powerful wizards would no longer be straight wizards as the one level casting loss is balance, imo, by +8 (or more) AC. Likewise, the knowledge that you will be wearing heavy armor allows you drop that high stat you would have placed in Dex and make that Con even higher. I also feel that it is imoportant to note, especially since this is the house rule forum, that when people tweak the rules about magic, they usually don't stop with one thing. Many of the responders probably also responded about allowing class level to replace caster level or the like. Now not only are you encouraging multiclassing for the explicit benefits, but you are reducing the implicit hindrances. Not good overall. [/QUOTE]

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