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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 230973" data-attributes="member: 3146">Not really. The only penalty for wearing armor without the proficiency is applying the armor check penalty to everything you do. Since neither mithril chain shirts nor darkwood shields have armor check penalties, single classed wizards and sorcerors wouldn't suffer from non-proficiency.A mithril chain shirt and darkwood shield and a shield spell adds two points to the mage armor+shield spell combo. More significantly, both the armor and the shield can be given enhancement bonusses. For slightly less  than the price of bracers of armor +4 (16k), a character can have a +3 mithril chain shirt (10.15k) and a +2 darkwood shield (about 4.5k) for a walking around AC of 21+dex. Add Shield, protection from evil, cat's grace, and a 14 dex to this and you're looking at AC 35 to AC 36 (depending upon the cat's grace result). Drop expertise, Haste, and/or natural armor bonusses on that and you can see how ugly it gets.Well, I agree with you that it's probably a good thing for balance if it's a feat and you don't use the splatbook stuff. In my experience (DMing for one and playing another) a very well constructed fighter/wizard can almost equal a moderately well constructed single classed fighter on a good day. Between the fighter/wizard and a single classed wizard there isn't really any comparison. (OTOH, I wouldn't want a return to 2nd edition where the fighter/wizard could outfighter the fighter and hold his own with the wizard at the same time).By making it a feat, you also remove the somewhat obnoxious proposition of non-proficient wizards wearing armor without penalty.</blockquote>

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