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<blockquote data-quote="akbearfoot" data-source="post: 4869601" data-attributes="member: 33560">I didn't do the exact math which was why I said 'around'...So 25 base + avg of 17 more for 42.&nbsp; I think in my head I originally multiplied the roll by 1.5 like you normally would for just being empowered.&nbsp; Cuz that would be right at 50 pts.&nbsp; I still think that's too much automatic damage.&nbsp; IMX brooches of shielding get sold as soon as they get found.&nbsp; The low hp casters have shield, and everyone else begs to be hit with direct damage rather than the jillion other nasty things casters can do.&nbsp; That or they are way more worried about wearing their amulets of health or natural armor (or both).Granted direct damage spells are usually not the best choice in combat...but that doesn't mean making low level spells do more damage than 9th level spells is balanced.I personally consider the orb spells borderline broken, and they are essentially banned in all games I have been playing in.&nbsp; Along with Wraithstrike, the Dex damage touch attack that 1-shots great wyrms with no save, and a few other things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="akbearfoot, post: 4869601, member: 33560"] I didn't do the exact math which was why I said 'around'...So 25 base + avg of 17 more for 42. I think in my head I originally multiplied the roll by 1.5 like you normally would for just being empowered. Cuz that would be right at 50 pts. I still think that's too much automatic damage. IMX brooches of shielding get sold as soon as they get found. The low hp casters have shield, and everyone else begs to be hit with direct damage rather than the jillion other nasty things casters can do. That or they are way more worried about wearing their amulets of health or natural armor (or both). Granted direct damage spells are usually not the best choice in combat...but that doesn't mean making low level spells do more damage than 9th level spells is balanced. I personally consider the orb spells borderline broken, and they are essentially banned in all games I have been playing in. Along with Wraithstrike, the Dex damage touch attack that 1-shots great wyrms with no save, and a few other things. [/QUOTE]

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