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<blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 6646038" data-attributes="member: 6777737"><p>1) No. <em>Invisibility</em> doesn't affect <em>mage hand</em> or objects carried by <em>mage hand</em> any more than it would affect <em>tenser's floating disk</em> or <em>wall of stone</em> or <em>summon elemental</em>. Whether or not it affects <em>mage armor</em> is up to the DM, but it's arguable either way (i.e., you must rule on whether or not it's "worn"). </p><p></p><p>For that matter, An invisible character picking up an object in general (i.e., without <em>mage hand</em>) is left up to the DM. We always play that by default an object you pick up remains invisible unless you're able to completely cover it (e.g., with your cloak, which is invisible). This means you can pick stuff up and it appears to float around, and you can make it invisible, too, if you want.</p><p></p><p>2) You're explicitly allowed to learn one spell from a any school when you gain the feature at 3rd level. Or, rather, one of the three spells you learn at 3rd level doesn't carry any special school requirements. It seems like an oversight to me that the 3rd level known spell wasn't called out on the list of spells known which are eligible to be exchanged for spells of any school. I can't think of a situation where the more open interpretation is game breaking, so I'm inclined to call it an oversight and allow it.</p><p></p><p>By strictest literal reading of the rules, however, you're allowed to select one spell of any school at 3rd level, but if you exchange it out then the spell must be from one of the two allowed schools. I would recommend against strict readings of the rules for their own sake in 5e, however, because the rules were not written with that in mind. You should do what makes the most sense and isn't broken before falling back on strict literal interpretations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bacon Bits, post: 6646038, member: 6777737"] 1) No. [I]Invisibility[/I] doesn't affect [I]mage hand[/I] or objects carried by [I]mage hand[/I] any more than it would affect [I]tenser's floating disk[/I] or [I]wall of stone[/I] or [I]summon elemental[/I]. Whether or not it affects [I]mage armor[/I] is up to the DM, but it's arguable either way (i.e., you must rule on whether or not it's "worn"). For that matter, An invisible character picking up an object in general (i.e., without [I]mage hand[/I]) is left up to the DM. We always play that by default an object you pick up remains invisible unless you're able to completely cover it (e.g., with your cloak, which is invisible). This means you can pick stuff up and it appears to float around, and you can make it invisible, too, if you want. 2) You're explicitly allowed to learn one spell from a any school when you gain the feature at 3rd level. Or, rather, one of the three spells you learn at 3rd level doesn't carry any special school requirements. It seems like an oversight to me that the 3rd level known spell wasn't called out on the list of spells known which are eligible to be exchanged for spells of any school. I can't think of a situation where the more open interpretation is game breaking, so I'm inclined to call it an oversight and allow it. By strictest literal reading of the rules, however, you're allowed to select one spell of any school at 3rd level, but if you exchange it out then the spell must be from one of the two allowed schools. I would recommend against strict readings of the rules for their own sake in 5e, however, because the rules were not written with that in mind. You should do what makes the most sense and isn't broken before falling back on strict literal interpretations. [/QUOTE]
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