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<blockquote data-quote="Beholder Bob" data-source="post: 1242446" data-attributes="member: 12866"><p>DanMcS: Hmmm. You and I both are thinking the same thing. I too have proposed a new class, also named the Arcanist, here on enworld </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=69712" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=69712</a></p><p></p><p>Part of my frustration was with the lack of progress the classes show (either) after 5th - why not switch to a prestige class? Also, I'm not a big fan of the theme/concept of the sorcerer - I have dragon blood (or what ever) heritage - behold my spell power! Next to him is a 1/2 dragon, or 1/2 celestial, 1/ what ever - with no sorcerer power.</p><p></p><p>The sorcerer encourages artillery platform mentality - with no reason to actually stick to a style or theme per their origin. The typical spell selection of the sorcerer was optimized for effectiveness, not for flavor.</p><p></p><p>The wizard is so....Vancian. I like the image of a wizard with his spell book, but not a wizard becoming a farmer because he lost his spell book and is unable to replace it!</p><p></p><p>Both have familiars - but the familiars have no flavor! They are just a 'awareness and a skill or save bonus' that has to sit next to you. All familiars develop the same. They didn't feal very magic - I found that I agreed with someone’s argument to convert the current familiar to a staff w the same/similar benefits. After all, if they are all pretty much the same, what does it matter?</p><p></p><p>Let me know what you think of my Arcanist. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>As to your Arcanist: a lot of my 'view' will depend on the feat/ability progression you give it. As to my understanding of it - basically, they are wizards who automatically know (per spell mastery) a # of spells per the sorcerer list. The Arcanist decides which spells to prepare from his spell book - filling up those slots. The remaining slots are used per his sorcerer known spell list, a spontaneous caster. Overall, I like it. You may want to make the sorcerer/spells known list all come from the same (or perhaps 2) school for flavor. I assume these guys are not allowed to specialize in a school of magic. I like the flavor/option in flexibility it gives, though this is definitely more powerful then the base wizard - if they can specialize and have the same bonus feats and abilities. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beholder Bob, post: 1242446, member: 12866"] DanMcS: Hmmm. You and I both are thinking the same thing. I too have proposed a new class, also named the Arcanist, here on enworld [url]http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=69712[/url] Part of my frustration was with the lack of progress the classes show (either) after 5th - why not switch to a prestige class? Also, I'm not a big fan of the theme/concept of the sorcerer - I have dragon blood (or what ever) heritage - behold my spell power! Next to him is a 1/2 dragon, or 1/2 celestial, 1/ what ever - with no sorcerer power. The sorcerer encourages artillery platform mentality - with no reason to actually stick to a style or theme per their origin. The typical spell selection of the sorcerer was optimized for effectiveness, not for flavor. The wizard is so....Vancian. I like the image of a wizard with his spell book, but not a wizard becoming a farmer because he lost his spell book and is unable to replace it! Both have familiars - but the familiars have no flavor! They are just a 'awareness and a skill or save bonus' that has to sit next to you. All familiars develop the same. They didn't feal very magic - I found that I agreed with someone’s argument to convert the current familiar to a staff w the same/similar benefits. After all, if they are all pretty much the same, what does it matter? Let me know what you think of my Arcanist. ;) As to your Arcanist: a lot of my 'view' will depend on the feat/ability progression you give it. As to my understanding of it - basically, they are wizards who automatically know (per spell mastery) a # of spells per the sorcerer list. The Arcanist decides which spells to prepare from his spell book - filling up those slots. The remaining slots are used per his sorcerer known spell list, a spontaneous caster. Overall, I like it. You may want to make the sorcerer/spells known list all come from the same (or perhaps 2) school for flavor. I assume these guys are not allowed to specialize in a school of magic. I like the flavor/option in flexibility it gives, though this is definitely more powerful then the base wizard - if they can specialize and have the same bonus feats and abilities. :cool: [/QUOTE]
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