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<blockquote data-quote="PSusac" data-source="post: 7055940" data-attributes="member: 6702387">Greetings o wise and sagely nerds!I'm working on an archer build who I created to be more of a bag of tricks who does good damage, than as a DPS monster.&nbsp; The party has a bard, but no rogue, this character will eventually be the party rogue.&nbsp; That said, I DO want to do good burst damage, but at what cost?PHB ONLY - the DM's ruling, so no UA or other books.FEATS/ASI are in boldHere is the build so far:Variant Human, STR 10, DEX 16, CON 14, INT 8, WIS 14, CHA 12Background: Criminal.1.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 1 – Archery Style, Second Wind Crossbow Expert2.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 2 – Action Surge3.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 3 – Combat Superiority – 3 Maneuvers, 4 Superiority dice, +1 Artisan Tools4.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 4 – +2 DEX5.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 5 – Extra attack6.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 6 – Sharpshooter7.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rogue 1 – 1d6 sneak attack, expertise, thieves’ cant8.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rogue 2 – Cunning action (dash, disengage, hide)9.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rogue 3 – 2d6, Assassinate or spells10.&nbsp;&nbsp; Rogue 4 - +2 DEX11.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 7 – Know your enemy, +2 Maneuvers, +1 S-Die12.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 8 – Magic Initiate (Dancing Lights, Minor Illusion, Silent Image)13.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 9 – Indomitable 114.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 10 – S-dice = d10’s, +2 Maneuvers15.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 11 – Extra attack (2)16.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 12 - Alertness17.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 13 – Indomitable 218.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 14 – FEAT19.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter 15 – Relentless, + 2 Maneuvers, +1 S-dieAttack routine will basically consist of hand crossbow for the extra attack per round due to crossbow expert.&nbsp; I might use heavy crossbow, if I plan to do a lot of shoot-move-hide tricks when I apply my cunning action to hiding.So here is the dilemma:If I take Assassin, I'll be better at burst damage on surprise rounds.&nbsp; We are starting out behind enemy lines, so this seems like it will be a regular occurrence.On the other hand, if I take Arcane Trickster, I will gain the silent image spell that I can use for cover twice a day or an owl familiar that I can use to give myself advantage on one attack per round.&nbsp; Of course if I go this rout, I will be trading out Magic Initiate with something else.What do you guys think?&nbsp; Should I focus on occasional nukes, or regular weird mo-jo?Thanks for your replies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="PSusac, post: 7055940, member: 6702387"] Greetings o wise and sagely nerds! I'm working on an archer build who I created to be more of a bag of tricks who does good damage, than as a DPS monster. The party has a bard, but no rogue, this character will eventually be the party rogue. That said, I DO want to do good burst damage, but at what cost? [B]PHB ONLY[/B] - the DM's ruling, so no UA or other books. [B]FEATS/ASI are in bold[/B] Here is the build so far: Variant Human, STR 10, DEX 16, CON 14, INT 8, WIS 14, CHA 12 Background: Criminal. 1. Fighter 1 – Archery Style, Second Wind [B]Crossbow Expert[/B] 2. Fighter 2 – Action Surge 3. Fighter 3 – Combat Superiority – 3 Maneuvers, 4 Superiority dice, +1 Artisan Tools 4. Fighter 4 – [B]+2 DEX[/B] 5. Fighter 5 – Extra attack 6. Fighter 6 – [B]Sharpshooter[/B] 7. Rogue 1 – 1d6 sneak attack, expertise, thieves’ cant 8. Rogue 2 – Cunning action (dash, disengage, hide) 9. Rogue 3 – 2d6, Assassinate or spells 10. Rogue 4 - [B]+2 DEX[/B] 11. Fighter 7 – Know your enemy, +2 Maneuvers, +1 S-Die 12. Fighter 8 – [B]Magic Initiate (Dancing Lights, Minor Illusion, Silent Image)[/B] 13. Fighter 9 – Indomitable 1 14. Fighter 10 – S-dice = d10’s, +2 Maneuvers 15. Fighter 11 – Extra attack (2) 16. Fighter 12 - [B]Alertness[/B] 17. Fighter 13 – Indomitable 2 18. Fighter 14 – [B]FEAT[/B] 19. Fighter 15 – Relentless, + 2 Maneuvers, +1 S-die Attack routine will basically consist of hand crossbow for the extra attack per round due to crossbow expert. I might use heavy crossbow, if I plan to do a lot of shoot-move-hide tricks when I apply my cunning action to hiding. So here is the dilemma: If I take Assassin, I'll be better at burst damage on surprise rounds. We are starting out behind enemy lines, so this seems like it will be a regular occurrence. On the other hand, if I take Arcane Trickster, I will gain the silent image spell that I can use for cover twice a day or an owl familiar that I can use to give myself advantage on one attack per round. Of course if I go this rout, I will be trading out Magic Initiate with something else. What do you guys think? Should I focus on occasional nukes, or regular weird mo-jo? Thanks for your replies. [/QUOTE]

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