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<blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 3252849" data-attributes="member: 6562">Any reason you can't just play an Elf Rogue/Cleric Archer?Here's two possible builds, assuming Forgotten Realms deity list, and assuming access to Complete Adventurer.LG Elf Archer of Gwaeron Windstrom (NG)Str: 13, Dex: 15 -&gt; 17, Con: 16 -&gt; 14, Int: 11, Wis: 14, Cha: 131/ Rogue 1 -- Point-Blank Shot2/ Cleric 1 (Travel, Good)3/ Cleric 2 -- Precise Shot4/ Rogue 25/ Cleric 36/ Shadowbane Stalker 1 -- Rapid Shot7-15/ Shadowbane Stalker 2-10You'll get a bunch of mobility spells (longstrider, fly, plus dimension door and teleport), and at higher levels you can make your own Holy bow (take Craft Magic Arms &amp; Armor at level 9, and Practied Spellcaster at level 12, which will exactly make up for your 4 lost caster levels).Your ranks in Concentration and Spellcraft are going to lag until you hit Shadowbane Stalker. You'll have to eat a cross-class penalty cost on Sense Motive at 5th level, but only for one rank. Putting Rogue as your 5th level would avoid the cross-class penalty, but would incur a -20% XP multiclass penalty, which is worse IMHO.The other alternative is the same class levels, but choose Mielikki for your deity (and Travel &amp; Fey for your domains). Fey gives you faerie fire (meh) and inspired aim (ooooo!).Elf domain would be fantastic, as would War with a bow, but Shadowbane Stalker requires LG alignment, and there are no NG or LG Elf deities. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />Cheers, -- N</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nifft, post: 3252849, member: 6562"] Any reason you can't just play an Elf Rogue/Cleric Archer? Here's two possible builds, assuming Forgotten Realms deity list, and assuming access to Complete Adventurer. [b]LG Elf Archer of Gwaeron Windstrom (NG)[/b] Str: 13, Dex: 15 -> 17, Con: 16 -> 14, Int: 11, Wis: 14, Cha: 13 1/ Rogue 1 -- Point-Blank Shot 2/ Cleric 1 (Travel, Good) 3/ Cleric 2 -- Precise Shot 4/ Rogue 2 5/ Cleric 3 6/ Shadowbane Stalker 1 -- Rapid Shot 7-15/ Shadowbane Stalker 2-10 You'll get a bunch of mobility spells ([i]longstrider[/i], [i]fly[/i], plus [i]dimension door[/i] and [i]teleport[/i]), and at higher levels you can make your own Holy bow (take Craft Magic Arms & Armor at level 9, and Practied Spellcaster at level 12, which will exactly make up for your 4 lost caster levels). Your ranks in Concentration and Spellcraft are going to lag until you hit Shadowbane Stalker. You'll have to eat a cross-class penalty cost on Sense Motive at 5th level, but only for one rank. Putting Rogue as your 5th level would avoid the cross-class penalty, but would incur a -20% XP multiclass penalty, which is worse IMHO. The other alternative is the same class levels, but choose Mielikki for your deity (and Travel & Fey for your domains). Fey gives you [i]faerie fire[/i] (meh) and [i]inspired aim[/i] (ooooo!). Elf domain would be fantastic, as would War with a bow, but Shadowbane Stalker requires LG alignment, and there are no NG or LG Elf deities. :( Cheers, -- N [/QUOTE]

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